I think you expressed yourself very well, purps.
SixofNine
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Congresswoman Shot in Tucson
by leavingwt inseveral shot at tuscon grocery .
several people were shot saturday at a grocery store in tucson, arizona, a spokesman for the pima county sheriff's department said.. the shooting occurred at a safeway shortly after 10 a.m. mst, according to sheriff's spokesman deputy jason ogan.. a couple of victims with gunshot wounds have arrived at northwest medical center, according to spokesman richard parker.. "they've been coming in the last 10 minutes.
i'm not sure of the severity of their injuries," he said.. ogan said the motive for the shooting is unclear.. "we're just trying to sort this out right now," he said.. .
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Arizona Shooting
by free2beme ini think this is a very sad thing to happen in this country.
the fact though, that they say this person was doing it for political reasons and frustration.
is a sign of what this world has become in an internet society.
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SixofNine
my own take is that he did what other mass murderers before him have done: they've gone out and shot innocent people to get international fame.
Except that as far as anyone knows, that's not true; not in this case nor other mass murderers. You have a weird and frankly silly theory Mary, unsupported by any facts.
How exactly is shooting a 9 year old girl related to this idiots view on politics?
How exactly can it be almost 48 hours since that event and you aren't aware that the dude went there to shoot congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, not a 9 year old girl?
Bone-chilling prescience from Matt Taibbi
by thereisnospoon
Just under a week ago on January 5th, Matt Taibbi's expose of John Boehner hit the Rolling Stone website.
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But in light of the Giffords shooting, one part of Taibbi's article in particular stands out with bone-chilling prescience:
Another Ohio Democrat, Steve Driehaus, clashed repeatedly with Boehner before losing his seat in the midterm elections. After Boehner suggested that by voting for Obamacare, Driehaus "may be a dead man" and "can't go home to the west side of Cincinnati" because "the Catholics will run him out of town," Driehaus began receiving death threats, and a right-wing website published directions to his house. Driehaus says he approached Boehner on the floor and confronted him.
"I didn't think it was funny at all," Driehaus says. "I've got three little kids and a wife. I said to him, 'John, this is bullshit, and way out of bounds. For you to say something like that is wildly irresponsible.'"
Driehaus is quick to point out that he doesn't think Boehner meant to urge anyone to violence. "But it's not about what he intended — it's about how the least rational person in my district takes it. We run into some crazy people in this line of work." (emphasis mine)
Driehaus says Boehner was "taken aback" when confronted on the floor, but never actually said he was sorry: "He said something along the lines of, 'You know that's not what I meant.' But he didn't apologize."
That bears repeating: "It's not about what he intended -- it's about how the least rational person in my district takes it." And confronted with the obviousness of that appeal, the John Boehners of the world don't apologize. They just keep the steamroller of hate running right along through Crazytown until somebody inevitably gets hurt.
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Congresswoman Shot in Tucson
by leavingwt inseveral shot at tuscon grocery .
several people were shot saturday at a grocery store in tucson, arizona, a spokesman for the pima county sheriff's department said.. the shooting occurred at a safeway shortly after 10 a.m. mst, according to sheriff's spokesman deputy jason ogan.. a couple of victims with gunshot wounds have arrived at northwest medical center, according to spokesman richard parker.. "they've been coming in the last 10 minutes.
i'm not sure of the severity of their injuries," he said.. ogan said the motive for the shooting is unclear.. "we're just trying to sort this out right now," he said.. .
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SixofNine
but not this time.
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Congresswoman Shot in Tucson
by leavingwt inseveral shot at tuscon grocery .
several people were shot saturday at a grocery store in tucson, arizona, a spokesman for the pima county sheriff's department said.. the shooting occurred at a safeway shortly after 10 a.m. mst, according to sheriff's spokesman deputy jason ogan.. a couple of victims with gunshot wounds have arrived at northwest medical center, according to spokesman richard parker.. "they've been coming in the last 10 minutes.
i'm not sure of the severity of their injuries," he said.. ogan said the motive for the shooting is unclear.. "we're just trying to sort this out right now," he said.. .
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SixofNine
Op-Ed Contributor
What We Learned in Oklahoma City
By BILL CLINTON
Published: April 18, 2010
"As we exercise the right to advocate our views, and as we animate our supporters," Clinton wrote, "we must all assume responsibility for our words and actions before they enter a vast echo chamber and reach those both serious and delirious, connected and unhinged."
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Arizona Shooting
by free2beme ini think this is a very sad thing to happen in this country.
the fact though, that they say this person was doing it for political reasons and frustration.
is a sign of what this world has become in an internet society.
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SixofNine
The man was mentally ill, sixty.
Yeah, that's what I said when I used the word "deranged", Violia. (he was also apparently quite functional, you'll note) Mentally disturbed people are especially susceptible to fiery propaganda - As you'll find this shooter was, because there will be evidence found of specific examples of the type of rhetoric and propaganda that he followed and was affected by. Many of the things that will come out that this character was so passionate about, you'll find being spoken about in similar terms by people on this very forum (perhaps toned down a notch or two, perhaps not) .
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Arizona Shooting
by free2beme ini think this is a very sad thing to happen in this country.
the fact though, that they say this person was doing it for political reasons and frustration.
is a sign of what this world has become in an internet society.
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SixofNine
That's kind of an odd theory, Mary. You seem to think that political passion is less likely to motivate a killer than a simple desire to be famous? This after the last few American elections seasons you've watched?
I'm curious what you think was the motivation behind the anonymous sender of incendiary devices/bombs mailed to political figures in the last couple of weeks, or the violent threats that Gabrielle Giffords and other politicians have received in the recent past? Do you believe Timothy McVeigh and his co-conspirator just "wanted international fame"?
How about this guy: " April 4, 2009—Neo-Nazi Richard Poplawski shoots and kills three police officers responding to a 911 call to his home in Pittsburgh. His friend Edward Perkovic tells reporters that Poplawski feared “the Obama gun ban that’s on its way” and “didn’t like our rights being infringed upon.” Perkovic also commented that Poplawski carried out the shooting because “if anyone tried to take his firearms, he was gonna’ stand by what his forefathers told him to do.”
Just looking for attention?
Or how about this lovely passionate patriot; he got his 15 minutes, eh?: " January 12, 2010—Charles Allan Dyer, 29, a former Marine with ties to Tea Parties and far-right-wing organizations like Oath Keepers, is arrested at his home on charges of raping a 7 year old-girl. Sheriff's deputies find several firearms inside Dyer's home and a Colt M-203 40mm grenade launcher, which was stolen from a military base in Fort Irwin, California, in 2006. Dyer had been an organizer of militia groups in Oklahoma and told one interviewer, "I'm going to use my training and become one of those domestic terrorists that you're so afraid of from the reports." In another video, Dyer states, "With DHS blatantly calling patriots, veterans, and constitutionalists a threat, all that I have to say is you’re damn right we're a threat. We're a threat to anyone that endangers our rights and the Constitution of this republic.""
I know Americans are very passionate about their fame, but not too many people start shooting innocent people in a frigging mall because they feel frustrated at not getting a shot on Dancing with the stars.
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Arizona Shooting
by free2beme ini think this is a very sad thing to happen in this country.
the fact though, that they say this person was doing it for political reasons and frustration.
is a sign of what this world has become in an internet society.
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SixofNine
He was obviously deranged. Deranged people are even MORE susceptible to hate propaganda than your average yahoo.
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Window Washers
by dontplaceliterature inquestion:.
why do i see so frequently the witnesses referred to as "window washers" on here?
i have been a witness (though only recently "conscious") for my whole life.
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SixofNine
Six of Nine- Sit on your thumb and rotate . Peace out, Mr. Flipper
Done. What next? (surely there's more to it than this)
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2011 will be a better year IF...
by laverite inwe all try to be a little bit nicer to each other and everyone we come in contact with, do random acts of kindness, and try to be a positive force for good in this world.. help someone who needs it, whether they say thank you or not.
don't get upset if they don't thank you.
are you helping for the thanks and recognition you get?
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SixofNine
Egyptian Muslims act as "human shields" for Coptic Christmas mass
By Ashley Samelson McGuire
Muslims protect and greet Orthodox Christians leaving the church where Saturday's bomb blast took place in Alexandria, January 6, 2011, after the Coptic Christmas mass. Egypt tightened security around churches on Thursday, the eve of Coptic Christmas, after a New Year's Day bombing killed up to 23 and sparked angry protests by Christians demanding more protection from Muslim militants. REUTERS/Asmaa Waguih"I know it might not be safe, yet it's either we live together, or we die together, we are all Egyptians."
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Congresswoman Shot in Tucson
by leavingwt inseveral shot at tuscon grocery .
several people were shot saturday at a grocery store in tucson, arizona, a spokesman for the pima county sheriff's department said.. the shooting occurred at a safeway shortly after 10 a.m. mst, according to sheriff's spokesman deputy jason ogan.. a couple of victims with gunshot wounds have arrived at northwest medical center, according to spokesman richard parker.. "they've been coming in the last 10 minutes.
i'm not sure of the severity of their injuries," he said.. ogan said the motive for the shooting is unclear.. "we're just trying to sort this out right now," he said.. .
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SixofNine
Comedian Frank Conniff tweets ... "Hey, Sarah Palin, hows that hatey, killy, reloady, crosshairsy thing working out for ya?"