Why would anyone tell others that they had not consumated their marriage? Just curious as to the context of said admission.
for that matter, why would anyone not consumate their marriage?
SixofNine
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Did You Know .... ? [Russell]
by RR indid you know ..... 1. that charles and maria russell never consummated their marriage?.
2. that his father, jospeh remarried ... maria's sister, making charles sister-in-law, his step-mother?.
3. that he learned most of his theology from the advent christian church?.
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Another New One
by notperfectyet ini have been reading this site for a couple of months.
last night i stayed up all night, (not unusual for me though) and read the posts by ......well you know...the new kid on the block...who created so much fury.
at first i thought she was a fake, and i still do.
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Thanks For your Input All
by eyes_opened inthanks everyone!
you were very supportive and helpful on this subject.. <with the exception of the idiot at the end lol>.
edited by - eyes_opened on 23 january 2001 19:40:40
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God Changing Chosen Peoples
by eyes_opened inmy huband posed something to me yesterday that i had never even thought of before.
he said, wouldn't it be possible that if a group <ie.
jehovahs witnesses> fell out of gods favor, what would stop him from choosing another group?
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SixofNine
MDS, Divine name movement?
Maybe, but that is just one more thing we seem to have gotten wrong. Perhaps at one point "Jehovah" was an honest mistake, but the evidence seems to show clearly that "Jehovah" is not it. Yaweh seems to be a much more accurate guess now. If the name is so important, an honest reverence of it would indicate trying your hardest to get it right, even if it meant admitting you had gotten it wrong.
But, I tend to agree with a few others in this thread. It just does not seem to ever have been of primary importance to either God or his Son. If it was, why would there be any confusion in anyones mind as to what Gods name is. And that includes anyone living in the farthest reaches of China.
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Unity-the 2nd time around
by JAVA insomeone looked at my web page and sent the following:.
"it seems that whenever ex jw's read about other ex jw's stories and points of view, we feel like, at some point, we've read each other's minds!
everything makes sense!".
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SixofNine
Great topic. Great points.
It reminds me of how a non-thinking witness (like I used to be) can hear the term "abstain from blood" and decide that it is a prohibition on blood being used for its replacement value. In that sentence their thoughts do perish.
Same with the term unity. I used to struggle with the odd dichotomy of an organization that I was sure did not have Christlike love amongst its members, yet I could not argue that we were not unified.
And there is the problem. Witnesses seem to hear the word "unity" and never think for a second what that unity should be based on. Or, if they do think beyond "unified" to "unified in love for Jehovah", they have already made the decision that Jehovah only deals with people through the organization. The thought that Christians should be united in love (for one another, for everyone) is trumped by unified (mindless perhaps) loyalty to the org.
It's kind of a unity catch-22; The org says what love means---The org is Jehovahs only human channel---We all believe that---therefore---We are United in Love!!!
As a great blues man sings, "Thats not love, love don't feel that way. I dont know what it is, but thats not love"
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Platlets...can WTBTS policy be defended?
by joel inif this topic has been addressed already...sorry...just ignore it.... if not...i would like to hear from those who would defend this policy....or who see the inconsistencies in the views on blood but the wtbts.. .
the following is something i read on at another site.
there is no question that the watchtower's blood policy needlessly kills jw children.
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SixofNine
Logical, Jehovah did not set a law in the Bible that prohibits blood from living donors being used medically. Anyone who says He did, is, quite frankly, a God damned liar.
How do I know? All liars are God damned liars.
When God damned liars try to tell Jehovah what he meant, and tell others that God is arbitrary, they must be especially repugnant to Jehovah. I know they are to me. When those God damned liars try to push a twisted interpretation of scripture to the point of human sacrifice, well, all I can say is, don't try to sell that for my kid when you are in physical proximity to me.
Now, may I suggest you take a look at ALL the relevant scriptures (and there are many), with a view to getting Gods mind on the matter? It would only be logical that you do so.
Sorry in advance for the rancor, but life and death issues arouse great passion in me. They seem...., I don't know?..., sacred?
Edited by - SixofNine on 14 January 2001 19:26:59
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The Great Love of Your Life
by waiting inthe following quote is by farkel from h20, explaining the slow changes in rick, who is forum director?
farkel: http://www.cyberpass.net/~h2o/wwwboard/hourglass2board.frames.alt.html.
posted by farkel [keflar] on january 09, 2001 at 07:47:38 {bwzcy8br/qtkpaniraaivhkqcjatlo}:.
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SixofNine
When I first got on the net, maybe 5 or 6 years ago, I found H20 immediately.
I immediately left, like a good boy. It scared the hell out of me. I may have had a few dissonant thoughts about our beliefs, but I didn't want to be hit over the head with a sledgehammer. I assumed the stuff about "witnesses in good standing" was just a ruse, to lure people in.
It may have been, it may be. But when logic got the best of me, and someone tricked me into visiting H20 again in the middle of last year, I was floored to realise that Rick, the owner of the site, really seems sincere in believing the WTBS can and should be reformed.
Since then (the last 6 or so months) I have been lurking at H20, and indeed, the last month or so Rick seems to be changing his outlook noticeably.
I was floored by Farkels analogy. Whether or not it applys to Rick, it sure hit home for me.
And Farkel is really showing the Softer Side of Keflar there, isn't he?
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All my life...
by SixofNine in....i have always heard the term, "dedication", used as part and parcle of the term/act of baptism.
you know, "dedication and baptism".. just recently, i've been wondering, why?
it's not that i don't believe dedicating oneself to jehovah is a noble thing, i'm just wondering what the reasoning is for formally linking dedication with baptism.. have i missed something really simple here?
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SixofNine
....I have always heard the term, "dedication", used as part and parcle of the term/act of baptism. You know, "dedication and baptism".
Just recently, I've been wondering, why?
It's not that I don't believe dedicating oneself to Jehovah is a noble thing, I'm just wondering what the reasoning is for formally linking dedication with baptism.
Have I missed something really simple here? Should a relevant scripture be popping into my head right now?
Edited by - SixofNine on 7 January 2001 20:17:9
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Sad situation in India
by RedhorseWoman inwith the closing of the branch office in india, many bethel brothers have been set loose into the world with no resources.
mother does not provide for her own, it would seem.. below is a copy of letter i received today:.
hello brothers and sisters,.
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SixofNine
Caution!
This is suspiciously similar to a posting on witnet a year or so ago. In that posting, the person from India had a sad tale of needing monetary help to get to an assembly.
His story just did not add up.
One thing anyone "layed off" from any society position will not be w/o is a work ethic.
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Is it humanly possible....
by SixofNine in...to read "crisis of concience" and continue on believing that the organization is (or ever was) gods organization?
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