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  An anthropologist visits a JW community in Santa María Zapotitlán, Mexico

  by OrphanCrow in

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  dr. jena barchas-lichtenstein is an anthropologist who received her doctorate through ucla.. https://www.linkedin.com/pub/jena-barchas-lichtenstein/43/427/702.

  in 2013, barchas-lichtenstein submitted the paper "when the dead are resurrected, how are we going to speak to them?

  ": jehovah's witnesses and the use of indigenous languages in the globalizing textual community as a partial submission for her doctoral dissertation..

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  Blondie...

  WT 1st July 1998 Page 22/23 Paragraph 16 under the sub heading "An Orderly Resurrection"

  
  

  An Orderly Resurrection

  16 Since the heavenly resurrection is orderly, “each one in his own rank,” it is evident that the earthly resurrection will not create a chaotic population explosion. (1 Corinthians 15:23) Understandably, the newly resurrected ones will need to be looked after. (Compare Luke 8:55.) They will need physical sustenance and—more important—spiritual assistance in gaining life-giving knowledge of Jehovah God and Jesus Christ. (John 17:3) If all were to return to life simultaneously, it would be impossible to care for them adequately. It is reasonable to assume that the resurrection will take place progressively. Faithful Christians who died shortly before the end of Satan’s system will likely be among the first ones raised. We can also expect an early resurrection for the faithful men of old who will serve as “princes.”—Psalm 45:16.

  
  
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  Trolley Stands Up, Door-to-Door Work Down?

  by steve2 in

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  several threads have discussed the increased use of of the trolley work by witnesses in various countries (e.g, australia, new zealand, the states, canada and britain to name a few).

  several posters have described trolley settings as largely ignored by passersby and/or the witnesses immersed in everything other than appearing ready and waiting to make contact with passersby.

  what impact will this increased shift to trolley work have on the hallmark feature of jws, their door-to-door work?

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  The door to door work will finish if you are a believing dub...it will finish when the Great Tribulation starts...of course we know that will never happen but to a dub they firmly believe tomorrow might be the last day they do door to door...
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  Prank call to Governing Body member Anthony Morris III gets through

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  alert..............alert.....breaking news .......... john cedars of jwsurvey has pranked called governing body member anthony morris iii at bethel .

  over 2 minutes of pranking .

  as i type he is editing the recording into a video .

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  What is more impressive than the call itself is the amount of people who think it was not a good idea.

  I enjoyed the call very much...but I thought it was a poor decision to do by Cedars considering his standing in the exjw community.  He has just lost a lot of credibility.

  After having a few issues on other exjw forums for posting similar views that are on here I'm at least satisfied that others share the same view I have.
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  Prank call to Governing Body member Anthony Morris III gets through

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  alert..............alert.....breaking news .......... john cedars of jwsurvey has pranked called governing body member anthony morris iii at bethel .

  over 2 minutes of pranking .

  as i type he is editing the recording into a video .

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  @undercover posts above is cracking and is entirely my point...

  3 years ago I was mentally in...I looked at these sites but thought "dirty apostates"...but I read Cedars site and his site was free from any bitterness or any detection of personal anger against anyone in the org or the org itself...he simply stated facts and evidence and that really helped me go learn more and then get out.

  Another person today in a similar situation as I was back then will take one look at Cedars site now and run and think "dirty apostate" because he loses credibility with calling GB members name, posting log blog posts about their talks and now prank calls.

  Cedars had none of that 3 years ago when he had to remain behind John Cedars because he himself was not technically out.

  Now that he is he certainly seems hellbent in joining the mass other of exjws who have sites and YouTube video's attacking every facet of the org...he doesn't seem to realise he has the ability to tap in and help someone make the first and hardest step and that is that God is not directing the organisation...don't get me wrong, the more sites and vids the better but the plethora of exjw sites and vids out there ONLY reinforce the fact that God has nothing to do with this org thus you must already be at that point to watch their vids and get benefit from...

  If Cedars doesn't want to help those then fair enough but there are a severe lack of sites that can assist...his WAS one of them but now he has lost it, his internet ego is growing by the hour...I'm really put off by a lot of his recent blogs and vids, especially about AM3.
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  Prank call to Governing Body member Anthony Morris III gets through

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  alert..............alert.....breaking news .......... john cedars of jwsurvey has pranked called governing body member anthony morris iii at bethel .

  over 2 minutes of pranking .

  as i type he is editing the recording into a video .

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  @OUTLAW...agreed...I'm getting slated on other exjw sites for similar views...
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  Prank call to Governing Body member Anthony Morris III gets through

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
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  alert..............alert.....breaking news .......... john cedars of jwsurvey has pranked called governing body member anthony morris iii at bethel .

  over 2 minutes of pranking .

  as i type he is editing the recording into a video .

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  Lloyd Evans aka Cedars was a figure on the internet that reported things in the JW world with a clarity and neutrality that made it so that dubs went to his site.  He never posted anything that could be construed as negative or personally attacking the faith or individuals.

  THEN he came out, he publicly DA himself and then revealed his true name and from then on he seems more about promoting his site and videos rather than do what he actually did.  He has degenerated into a bitter, mentally diseased apostate who attacks the person of GB members and now writes/speaks things that are easily identifiable as apostate. 

  He has lost the one thing that was truly unique to his site...he is now just a joke...it's all clearly gone to his head.

  I'll think I'll delete my internet favorite for his site.
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  Do you obsess about JWs?

  by Half banana in

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  do we obsess about the jw org?

  i admit i do.

  the reason is that two of my offspring are still held hostages by the beliefs of the cult..

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  Wife is still in so I like to keep an eye on what is going on but obsessed?  Not really, just being sensible...
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  2015/1/13/BOE!--Technical preparations for the 20l5 visit of headquarters representatives!

  by Atlantis in

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  (from the source).

  2015 january 13, boe.. .. re: technical preparations for the 20l5 visit of headquarters representatives.

  .. click the link by the little blue arrow and nothing else.. .. https://www.sendspace.com/file/0g0mr0.

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  The scan is a bit skewy...
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  HOW EXACTLY does god communicate with or direct the GB?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  we're all familiar with the organisations claims (and have seen the flow diagrams in books and mags) that the gb is "directed by god".

  in turn, the local elders are "directed by god".

  so, how exactly do they suppose this happens?

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  So how does this work?

  Does the Holy Spirit direct what these men release as doctrines prior to them releasing it?  

  If so then the Holy Spirit gets it wrong too much for my liking.

  Or is it a case that the men release doctrines based on their bible research (snigger) and the Holy Spirit adjusts when necessary?

  If so why did it take years for organ transplants and minor blood fraction doctrines to be adjusted at the cost of lives?

  
  

  Either way I can't follow it...if it is the first way then I don't want to follow a god who is dicking me around and if it is the second way then what I would be following is men...

  
  

  Ergo I'm out...
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  Some Old NuLite

  by Coded Logic in

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  the truthtm about generations.. .

  "the length of time is indicated by him when he said, "truly i say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.

  " (matt.

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  It would have been handy to then have included all the recent changes and flip-flop statements on the generation with this...it was the anointed generation, then it was the world people, then overlapping etc...