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  2005 - The year the Society began its decline (without anyone noticing)!

  by cedars in

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  2. beliefs

  i've just finished an article for randy over on freeminds.org, which i've submitted to him for review.

  hopefully it should be online soon, so please keep checking!.

  the article discusses the fact that the watch tower society is already in decline, and suggests the year 2005 as the turning point.

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  notsurewheretogo

  I'll play Devil's Advocate on this and advise that EVERY company is doing what the WT is doing, slashing costs, cutting operations etc...it's the way of things at the moment...very few companies are actually in growth to the extent pre-world recession.

  Whilst the WT has to slash costs because of factors Cedars mentions they are not the sole factor...I work in the publishing industry and the entire publishing industry is struggling with many publishing companies slashing costs or outsourcing departments...

  I think to look at the decline of the WT in terms of them closing branches or cutting costs as as sign that they themselves are in decline is not entirely true, the WT, is in effect, a publishing company as the cost to print soars (ink and paper are going through the roof) then the WT simply has to do what all other publishing companies are doing and cut costs.

  Of course, other publishing companies don't have to worry about falling donations or child abuse compensation...
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  Has there been new counsel about Facebook recently?

  by purrpurr in

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  2. friends

  i've noticed increasing amounts of jw's are coming off fb and deactivating completely.

  all with the same reason which they post about at lenght which is that they wwant to focus more on their spiritual life and not have the distraction of fb.. have i missed something or is this just a coincidence?.

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  notsurewheretogo

  Yeah, back in the late 90's there was an entire Awake! magazine devoted to how evil and dangerous the internet is, a tool in the hands of the Devil....

  The Society would never use the internet...wait...what's this JW.org?
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  Candace Conti Case

  by truthseekeriam in

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  filed:.

  letter dated june 22, 2015, notifying the court that petitioners, watchtower and fremont congregation have reached a settlement with respondent, conti.. .

  click here to request automatic e-mail notifications about this case..

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  notsurewheretogo

  Of course Candace can do what she wants and we are all very proud of her, I was just going by the previous statements of her and her lawyer about what their objective was/is.

  The fact to me she has settled seems to suggest she has gotten the WT to change some of their draconian child abuse policies like the 2 witness rule etc.

  Hopefully, this will benefit thousands more who have suffered abuse and hopefully prevent any abuse. She has been a very brave woman for this fight and has won.

  I just hope we can get some details of her settlement.
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  Candace Conti Case

  by truthseekeriam in

  1. jw
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  filed:.

  letter dated june 22, 2015, notifying the court that petitioners, watchtower and fremont congregation have reached a settlement with respondent, conti.. .

  click here to request automatic e-mail notifications about this case..

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  notsurewheretogo

  But surely her case is about the WT changing their policies? I thought that was what Candace and Irwin Zalkin were fighting for?
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  What the Governing Body found out when they ' did the math'

  by Esse quam videri in

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  2. beliefs

  stephen lett may 2015 broadcast.

  14:45 ... the governing body very much feels the urgency of accomplishing as much as we possibly can, in behalf of kingdom interests, knowing that the great day of jehovah is near....

  ... in an effort to inform you of the support that is needed for this great work, i have the following information to share.

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  notsurewheretogo

  Well when you do "the math" of the kings of Babylon from the Insight book and get 587BCE as the destruction of Jerusalem yet they say it was 607BCE then it is hardly surprising they cannot do "the math" with their finances.
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  Candace Conti Case

  by truthseekeriam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  filed:.

  letter dated june 22, 2015, notifying the court that petitioners, watchtower and fremont congregation have reached a settlement with respondent, conti.. .

  click here to request automatic e-mail notifications about this case..

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  notsurewheretogo

  Confused though.

  In the UK we recently read an exdub won v the WT and payment was set of £275,000.

  But that exdub was not fighting to change the policies of the WT, just that they were at fault.

  Candace on the other hand IS fighting to get them to change their policy thus why would she accept a settlement, she is not in it for the money but to change the policies...thus the only way she could accept a settlement is if the WT are going to change their policies.

  Or am I wrong?
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  Change to dress and grooming rules for JWs in USA soon?

  by RayPublisher in

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  2. beliefs

  my guy with the lurk account on jwtalk (where all the kool-aid drinking jws go to talk about how wonderful 'the twoof' is) sent me some more interesting threads, here's one:.

  spoiler: starting new the new service year september.

  "there will be new directives from the branch through the circuit overseer on dress and grooming that will disqualify one to be a congregation publisher.

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  notsurewheretogo

  Reads opening post...looks at who posted it...laughs out loud...moves on.
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  priveledges an extra layer of protection

  by aintenoughwiskey in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have noticed when an elder or ms gets in serious trouble, many times it's simply a demotion.

  local example.

  well liked ms son of a prominent elder/pioneer gets caught doing the dance with no pants with his fiancee.

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  notsurewheretogo

  Yup it happens.

  We had a young MS who was daddy elders pride and joy caught going to a nightclub...daddy elder asks me if it is true of which I said yes as my flatemate, a study at the time, worked in the nightclub told me...nothing happened.

  Another MS goes to the same nightclub but not daddy elders son, instant demotion as a MS with public reproof.
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  Updated Chronological Timeline of the Great Tribulation -- after the New Light from July Watchtower

  by FusionTheism in

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  2. bible

  the july 15, 2015 study watchtower article entitled "your deliverance is getting near", along with the jw broadcasting video entitled "gerrit losch: fortified by "the prophetic word," and chapter 21 of the god's kingdom rules!

  book presented a large amount of new light or clarified understanding of the events of the great tribulation.. here i am presenting it in chronological order -- this is the governing body's updated chronological order of events for the time right before the great tribulation through armageddon:.

  the final sealing of the anointed occurs just prior to the outbreak of the tribulation.

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  notsurewheretogo

  Thanks Listener

  FusionTheism said point 6 was from the talk Gerrit gave but I actually meant a source for the change in preaching message during the GT and Gerrit discusses no such thing but he does talk about the "4 years" thing which is also part of point 6 hence the confusion.

  
  

  I must have missed that WT you quote, I'll take a more in-depth look at it.

  
  
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  Updated Chronological Timeline of the Great Tribulation -- after the New Light from July Watchtower

  by FusionTheism in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the july 15, 2015 study watchtower article entitled "your deliverance is getting near", along with the jw broadcasting video entitled "gerrit losch: fortified by "the prophetic word," and chapter 21 of the god's kingdom rules!

  book presented a large amount of new light or clarified understanding of the events of the great tribulation.. here i am presenting it in chronological order -- this is the governing body's updated chronological order of events for the time right before the great tribulation through armageddon:.

  the final sealing of the anointed occurs just prior to the outbreak of the tribulation.

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  notsurewheretogo

  Thanks for the references...although point 6 I've never ever seen written by the WT, now a GB may say it in a talk but in the past they say things but they are never written so they it can never bite them and make them look an ass, as Rutherfprd once said.

  But the internet has captured what the GB said, what is the scriptural proof that the preaching work continues during the GT but that the message changes to one of "your doomed"?

  EDIT..I just watched the 15 min video by Gerrit...excude me as it may have been my mind switching off but at what point did he say that the preaching work changes from one of Good News to one of judgement?

  If you can tell me the time in the video that would be cool, I can't stomach to watch it again.