Posts by notsurewheretogo

87

Excellent Conversation At Literature Trolley

by cofty in

yesterday my wife and i enjoyed one of our regular days out at edinburgh - movie, lunch, walk, meal etc.. in the late afternoon while mrs cofty went shopping i had an hour at the excellent museum of scotland and arranged to meet up outside the national gallery on princes street.

on my way back i saw the jw trolley was at the usual spot on the royal mile.

there was an older man and a young woman standing well back trying hard to look inconspicuous.

notsurewheretogo

I am quite surprised at Cofty's experience...hitting dubs with facts about evolution rarely works...heck any facts doesn't matter...as they are trained to accept what the GB says "as fact".

28

UFO's might be real.and what does it mean if they are?

by atomant in

for some reason this subject has not received much attention over the years which surprises me.theres many conspiracy theories floating around on the internet and lve done my fair share of due diligence on the matter.the school is still out on this one.l find it very hard to believe humans are the only intelligent beings out there.has anyone on this forum ever seen a ufo or experienced a close encounter?

notsurewheretogo

Any intelligent life out there will be too far away if we go by the bounds of physics that we currently know...

Travelling above the speed of light or even near it is too strange...thus you enter wormholes etc....

Or there are intelligent life all over the universe but we will never meet....

Either way, there has been no proof yet of any aliens...here's hoping we find some organisms on Mars or Titan...

30

"508 Million Year Old" Exceptionally Preserved Embryos Found

by Perry in

actually, they we found over 100 years ago.

but because so many dinosaur bones have yielded soft tissue, blood cells, dna fragments etc.

, many have predicted (including myself) when all this really broke loose in 2005, that many more similar discoveries would be made simply by going back and cracking open old fossils and having a look inside.

notsurewheretogo

Is Perry ok? He hasn't responded yet...I hope he is ok...

30

"508 Million Year Old" Exceptionally Preserved Embryos Found

by Perry in

actually, they we found over 100 years ago.

but because so many dinosaur bones have yielded soft tissue, blood cells, dna fragments etc.

, many have predicted (including myself) when all this really broke loose in 2005, that many more similar discoveries would be made simply by going back and cracking open old fossils and having a look inside.

notsurewheretogo

Perry...stop getting your info from creationist sites...look at both sides and then, if you can, make the educated call as to which is right.

If you do that process you will either have to accept evolution as fact or continue to ignore facts that clash with your beliefs.

63

Just because the JW'S are wrong doesnt mean theres no god.

by atomant in

l;ve been giving this some serious consideration lately.l dont have all the answers no one does.we are all entitled to our opinions.l certainly dont believe in evolution as lve researched that subject extensively.lt's important to believe in something even if its for mental health.l believe everything happens for a reason.l also believe if we all live as close to the 10 commandments as possible this world would be a far better place to live and no one can argue with that.

notsurewheretogo

I suggest you need to spend way more time studying evolution...it is a fact...abiogenesis is an interesting field too...

48

Circuit Overseer Guidelines (tg-E) October 2015

by wifibandit in

circuit overseer guidelines (tg-e) october 2015. http://bit.ly/1utgizt.

notsurewheretogo

@slimboyfat...

When I was an elder I used to do this with our PO...we would rate all elders out of 5 in terms of convention speaking then this form would get passed to CO then Branch...

48

Circuit Overseer Guidelines (tg-E) October 2015

by wifibandit in

circuit overseer guidelines (tg-e) october 2015. http://bit.ly/1utgizt.

notsurewheretogo

Diogenesister6 hours agoNote that John Cedars is ( surreptitiously) taking the glory for this leak.😂

I'm no suckup fan of Cedars...I like some of his work....some I don't...but the above is a bit harsh...he says on Reddit clearly that he did not get the info in the first place...
He says:

Thanks, it wasn't really me though. It was the brave individual who leaked the document in the first place. I'm just passing it along, and if I didn't do it, someone else would. It's exciting though, isn't it! :)

He also says at the start of his article:

Previously only circulated online in Spanish, the strictly-confidentialCircuit Overseers Guidelinesdocument is now freely available online.

I don't see him taking credit for it.
These forums are getting distracted with activist v activist...forget Cedars the man...just concentrate on what he produces...if you do not like it fair enough but nitpicking on things is just annoying.
Your post has no point to it and serves no purpose.

29

Is this a site controlled by atheists?

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

under the exterior of being an ex- witness site, is this site simply converting atheism?.

i pose the question, because many come here in distress and insecurity with the realization that the w.t is wrong but still retain a belief in god.

my personal opinion is the threads on god are not challenged by an atheists personal animosity to believers, they are challenged and become confrontational because the atheist wants an elaboration and factual proof to a believers faith.. is this unreasonable?

notsurewheretogo

If you did a poll on all exjws and asked them what they now believe I'd bet that the majority are athiest...

It's not "run by athiests"...its just many exjws come to the conclusion there is no god.

Most of us when a dub were told never to question things and now we do...so when someone comes on here and expresses their opinion or point of view that there is a god..well we question it...we ask about the evidence and we share the evidence we have found that brings us to our conclusion that there is no god and that evolution and abiogenesis is the "truth".

Most posters who are athiests are respectful to believers in a god but we still have the right to ask questions, ask for evidence and point out the major issues in believing in a god...and that is our right.

This is true not just on here but on every discussion on creation v evolution...believer v athiest.

If a believer chooses to pass by the reasons we express for being an athiest then that is there right...on here...I, like many others, will not belittle them for having beliefs...but I stress we may question and point out things that can be uncomfortable to a believer.

But this is not to in an argumentative way or to be critical...I find most athiest posters on here very respectful...and some are enthusiastic.

46

Dan Sydlik

by done4good in

jw
friends

morning warship - he was the only restraint and i'm not saying that lightly.

i know there are a dozen others here who were in bethel back in the early 2000's who know what i'm talking about.

he actually kept me thinking this was jehovah's org because of his sincerity as if the holy spirit was operating in him.

notsurewheretogo

JW: We must obey the Governing Body, because they're chosen by God.
nonJW: How do you know that?
JW: Because they've told us.
nonJW: How do you know they're not wrong?
JW: Because God wouldn't choose people who are wrong to be the Governing Body.

Yup...and that is true of all cult thinking...

18

Circuit visit elders meeting

by Saltheart Foamfollower in

first some context to this post.

historically the elders meeting with the circuit overseer has had the following format : outline for meeting including ministerial servants then, after they have been dismissed, discussion of local issues.

the last visit there was an additional outline for the elders only, the notorious "gender blurring" discussion.. you might wonder what is being discussed this time round, so here you are:.

notsurewheretogo

The CO has an outline that they follow but they also tackle local issues thus the CO visit meeting with the elders may be different in each cong...