Posts by notsurewheretogo

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Old Watchtower publications in improved format

by Watchtower-Free in

the website avoidjw.org has been working to improve all the older documents.

right now, all the zion's watch towers from 1880 - 1908 and the watch towers from 1909 to 1920 have been improved drastically.

i'm currently working on updating pdfs from 1921 to 1949. this updating will include the following features:1. reduced file sizes.2.

No! No! No! This can't be true? brexit? No!

by purrpurr in

it seems britain has voted to leave the eu in a move of total madness!

the markets are already in free fall and the moronic bigots who campaigned for this are celebrating the demise of our country .. i can't see how a 49-51% split can be democratic?

there is still the postal vote to come in, maybe there's hope in that?

notsurewheretogo

Scottish Independent Referendum Part 2 will all be about the £ v €...but next time round there is no hiding from it.

Do you want to be part of the UK and keep the £ or separate from the UK and have the € because all new EU member states must take the € as their currency, that is non negotiable.

Also worth considering is would the EU take a separated Scotland because 2 years ago Scotland's deficit was £7.8 billion, last year it was £15 billion which is higher than Greece's!

Working on that figure, in order to even be considered for EU membership as a separate country, Scotland would have to implement austerity measures 5 times greater than current UK ones.

And who is to say the EU will continue in its current form. Netherlands are calling a referendum and are expected to vote to leave and their are noises from France that they may also hold a referendum.

Another country, cant remember who it os off the top of my head had applied to join but has recently withdrawn their application.

There's uncertainty ahead but it would be financial suicide for Scotland to be in the EU but not in the UK

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This is Why I Will Keep Explaining Evolution to ex-JWs

by cofty in

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notsurewheretogo

A famous Historian, Flavius Josephus, had written about the existence of Jesus, Jesus stated that man and women were created. That's good enough for me to still believe in Creation

Oh deary deary me...words fail me.

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List of "pagan" things JW's allow

by problemaddict 2 in

what i'm looking for specifically is things that are "pagan" in the sense they predate christianity (or i guess judiasm to cover the ole mosaic code), that jw's allow or do.

the ones that come to mind are below.. rings - rings seem to originate in egypt.

for wedding ceremonies it became a symbol of "ownership" in rome.. pinatas - looks like possibly it originated in china as a part of the new year and a request for luck, and catholics later turned it into a beating of temptation type thing.. anything else?.

notsurewheretogo

Smurfs are pagan aren't they? And they are allowed?

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Did others experience this on the ministry or among JWs generally?

by slimboyfat in

sometimes it's hard to know if our own experience of jws was typical and what features were peculiar to our own area or the individual jws we knew personally.

i was wondering if others experienced this among jws:.

a few times on the ministry, when we were working wealthy areas with large houses, some brothers and sisters would make the comment that they look forward to taking ownership of one of these big houses after armageddon, when the worldly people have vacated them.

notsurewheretogo

SBF OP comments would be shot down by me if I was still in...

The tribes of Israel were assigned land...the pattern after the Big A therefore, logically, given that Jehoover is a "God of Order", is that your land and house would be "assigned to you".

Thus you couldn't choose where to live or what house to nab...

We talked about this in Pioneer School one day...

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Letter # 3 to the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses

by WITNESS-FOR-WATCHTOWER-REFORM in

below is my latest letter sent to the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

jm.

the governing body.

notsurewheretogo

Instant DA I'm afraid...

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Availability Crisis of Conscience.

by Ben131895 in

most of us are desperately waiting for the availability of a legal crisis of conscience.

deborah dykstra provided us with two updates.

on december 12, 2015 there was a clear statement about the copyright which stopped all illegal activity in spreading electronic versions & prints.. finally, she promised a new update by or before may 6.. so far no new update.

notsurewheretogo

Ask Cedars????

Joke...

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Message from Designer Stubble to the former JWR members

by Designer Stubble in

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friends

message from designer stubble to the former jwr members.

first of all i am glad to see that many of you have found your way to this great forum, facilitated by simon.

i am sure that after the dust of the jwr shutdown has settled, you will find this to be a good new home.. i would like to apologize for the sudden closure of jwr.

notsurewheretogo

By sudden closure we were hoping that some would decide to let the past go and move on – and perhaps some will.

That is not for you or anyone else to decide or inflict...running JWR is appreciated but it comes with responsibility...a responsibility to act sensibly, decently and...responsibily...

Closing it down because there were people abusing forum rules...well guess what...that is what happens on forums...but to turn it off and say to folks "move on"...I'm a bit flabbergasted at that.

Goodbye DS...goodbye JWR...but the end of JWR is very bitter and very strange...

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slimboyfat joins the Mormons!

by slimboyfat in

i know that some people on the board have experience of being mormons, so i would be interested in your feedback.

at church this afternoon it was an uncanny experience.

in the past i've read a lot about mormons, so i thought i was prepared in general for what it would be like.

notsurewheretogo

SBF...is this a windup??????

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Message from Designer Stubble to the former JWR members

by Designer Stubble in

jw
friends

message from designer stubble to the former jwr members.

first of all i am glad to see that many of you have found your way to this great forum, facilitated by simon.

i am sure that after the dust of the jwr shutdown has settled, you will find this to be a good new home.. i would like to apologize for the sudden closure of jwr.

notsurewheretogo

No hate for Rifter...I don't hate him...I don't know him...

I dislike what he did with the site, I dislike closing it without prior warning. I've lost a lot a good posts that I had bookmarked...the reason why I never copied it to anywhere was because I assumed the site was still up and if it ever was going to shut down then I assumed the basic decency that notice would be given.

This thread is not about Rifter, Designer Stubble etc...it is not about people...I couldn't give two shits what Rifter is doing with his life or why he though it was a good idea to shut down abruptly but he was wrong...

And he was wrong for reasons that have nothing to do with people, it is to do with the support people relied upon on that site and the wealth of informative posts that have been taken away from us.

The fact Rifter is not unwilling to even open it back up for a while, sell it on etc is piss poor...

It is exactly the attitude of the Watchtower, the very attitude we all fled from and flocked to JWR in the first place.

I don't hate Rifter, I'm disgusted at what he has done to the people who used the site...it's unacceptable.