we had a bad experience with watchtower trying to infiltrate our forums.
let this story be a warning for all you guys here.
if you value your privacy do not ever send your real contact details to anyone, even if you trust them (because their accounts could be hacked or accessed by their relatives - and yes, this happened to people i know several times already).
You cannot access apostate websites from bethel. They are all blocked. I tried once...
They are blocked use an engine that catergorizes websites and then blocks the category...they do not manually block URL's...thus some sites may get through.
When I was down at Bethel I could access some because the scanning engine could not determine what category the site should go into as naturally it is not 100% foolproof.
surely the gb aren't naive enough to believe their own lies.what does it take for the majority of j dubs to wake up to themselves and finally realize that they are being robbed on all levels emotionally.financially,spiritually,intellectually and many other aspects of their day to day lives..
Vidiot25 minutes ago@ notsurewheretogo...
A surprisingly easy habit to fall into when you're surrounded solely with people who are never allowed to disagree with you.
Yup...classic cult behaviour.
surely the gb aren't naive enough to believe their own lies.what does it take for the majority of j dubs to wake up to themselves and finally realize that they are being robbed on all levels emotionally.financially,spiritually,intellectually and many other aspects of their day to day lives..
Don Cameron wrote a book called "Captives to a Concept"...he is an ex elder.
http://captivesofaconcept.com/
It is a great book...as it highlights that the GB believe 100% in the "concept" that they are chosen by God...thus whatever idea they come up with or interpretation they believe the Holy Spirit has helped them come to that decision.
Thus, they are "captives" to this concept and thus it is irrelevant what they teach, it will always, in their minds, be from Jehoover.
They are 100% in...read the book...its amazing.
can't believe it - gb is currently second in the medal table, with more golds and silvers combined than even china.
given the size of the nation it's an incredible achievement and we have won in some sports where other countries typically dominate.
i can't imagine we will stay in second but i am happy to enjoy the moment.. well done to the whole of team gb!.
That tennis match last night was truly epic though...Murray and Del Portro going at it...amazing stuff.
all us creationists try to do is offer true evidence that the one and only god is out there watching and looking down on us.
we present that certain scientists know the truth about god and that he is everything that we see from trees, life, weather, the air we breath, and even the most simple molecules.
but of course you atheists reject it because it is your nature to not be humble and see god because you want to rule your own life.
I've yet to read any "evidence" presented on here to make me conclude there is a god...whilst there is a plethora of evidence posted by users to back up evolution.
THAT is why you think they are hateful, because they most likely get frustrated at all their evidence being ignored and none provided by creationists.
anyone else also hold this view or understand it at least, or do you feel the need to argue that both can in no way coexist?.
Crabbya day agoAnyone else also hold this view or understand it at least, or do you feel the need to argue that both can in no way coexist?
Is there anywhere on this thread where you explain why you believe such? Or is it just a "belief"?
has anybody actually bought the grauniad?.....
from the grauniad, saturday 13 august 2016, page 14. bottom right hand side (ie in middle by fold/spine) and below a huge review of the new computer game no man's sky.
link to image below.
Well first off the reviews for No Mans Sky is very mixed...not the game it was hyped up to be!
But anyway, glad this is getting more mainstream coverage...its shocking the lengths they have gone to fight this.
i've heard some weird stories coming from jws about the paranormal.
i know about the warnings about items that come from unbelievers -- those don't interest me as much.
what i am interested in are actual experiences in stories of the paranormal you've heard or experienced yourself.
There are no paranormal activities in real life. Evidence suggests so. People's experiences are usually other things.
For instance, low frequency sounds affect the brain in such a way that people think they see ghosts or some sort of paranormal activity.
Whilst the brain thinks it is real..it is not.
Therefore, any experiences in this thread are not paranormal activity but just people's brain thinking it is so.
well it took awhile.
i've downsized.
got rid of my bmw.
I just can't take any of this thread seriously...nobody who was still a dub would come on here whilst "still in mentally" and yet no-one who was "out mentally" would ever go to Bethel.
Story doesn't stack up for me.
a nice jw old boy knocked the door and asked me how i was, said they were giving out invites, i refrained from mocking him for the total waste of time such "work" is.. he mentioned that " we don't know when the end will come" , so i just said i was sure my new grandson would grow up, go to university, get a good job and his kids would do the same, by which time i shall be long gone.. "you are sure of that ?
" asked the jw, "oh yes", i replied.. i know we cannot be sure of anything, except death and taxes, but there is loads of evidence that my scenario may well play out, there is no single shred of evidence for an "end to the system" as envisaged by jw's, their weird view coming from a totally discredited source, the bible and mainly its final book, what nonsense..
I agree JW Armageddon is not coming anytime. But if Trump becomes president I wouldn't be so sure of the rest.
In fact even if he doesn't become president I doubt the prospects of humans surviving the 21st century.
Is that unusual?
I can't see Trump winning...few of his own party saying today he is unfit for president...polls are close though.
In my opinion there will not a be a supernatural end to the world given I conclude there is no god but as for a man-made end to the world? Who knows...I was speaking to some high up ranking Navakl chaps recently who said things are getting very interesting with Russia...
