Posts by notsurewheretogo

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Do you believe that Jehovah is using the Organization today?

by Iamallcool in

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any elder has never asked me that question so far but i want to be prepared to answer that question if any of them ask me that question in the future.

i hope that they will never ask me that question.

any suggestions on how to answer that question would be very much appreciated.

notsurewheretogo

The answer is no...according to the Feb 17 Study WT.

They admit that they are not inspired and can get things wrong. So Jehovah has nothing to do with the org.

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maybe there will be a mass exodus from jws when thinking people read feb 2017 watchtower telling them the governing body stuff up, shouldnt expect correct/ perfect information and basically make up guff as they see fit.....ya reckon?.

notsurewheretogo

Many of the near 8 million JW's believe in one concept...that the GB/FDS and God are somehow connected.

Therefore, no matter what the GB say it will always be right...even when they say they can be wrong!

Honestly, the GB could say whatever they want and no-one will question it and it will be followed.

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Is the watchtower preparing the rank and file here?

by Thisismein1972 in

http://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/28736-that-most-beautiful-of-2015-videos-is-now-live/.

above is a link (if you can stomach it) from jwtalk.

have a look at the comments.

notsurewheretogo

Really don't get how you think they are not going to believe in a paradise earth from those comments.

Paradise earth is the carrot that keeps them all going.

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Where Does It Say JWs Can't Read Pubs By Other Churches?

by Cold Steel in

can jws read publications by other churches?

or by atheists?

i've always heard these are apostate materials.

notsurewheretogo

Quit touching the unclean thing! Babylon the Great...the world empire of false religion! That is what they use.

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If You Could Ask the GB Or One Of Its Members...

by Cold Steel in

...one question about anything and get a straight answer, what would it be?

historical, philosophical, theological, eschatological, anything.

.

notsurewheretogo

If God directs you, then why does God have bad days where he makes mistakes?
Because either God gets things wrong, or you don't speak for God...

The Feb 17 Study WT has, in writing, that the GB admit they are not inspired from God and can get things wrong.

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If You Could Ask the GB Or One Of Its Members...

by Cold Steel in

...one question about anything and get a straight answer, what would it be?

historical, philosophical, theological, eschatological, anything.

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notsurewheretogo

So if you are not inspired and get things wrong in terms of doctrine and policy just what is "spirit directed" then in the organzation? Toilet rotas?

If you are not infallible and not inspired and doctrines and policies are wrong then why do you expect people to 100% follow your counsel and make life-changing or even life-taking decisions that may not be true?

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Jehovah God is Real

by TakeOffTheCrown in

there are many on this site that do not believe that jehovah truly exists; that he is not a real being.

but, he is as real as next breath you draw into your nostrils.. some of you say that there is no evidence that he exists.

yet, none of you can prove that he does not exits.. cofty, (you come to mind), i appreciate that you have stated, without reservation, that you do not believe that god exists.. yet, you cannot prove it.. hope in jehovah..

notsurewheretogo

Let me tell you a story:
This story involves some members of the Christian Congregation. These ones were baptized under their given names becoming members of the Congregation.
One day, they saw this large edifice off into the distance. They became very curious and decided to enter. Inside, were those dressed in long black robes with diadems on their heads. And, on these diadems, were inscribed their new names - their Usernames. The ones in the black robes were speaking the most vile things. Taunting Jehovah’s people and cursing him.
Who are these ones? They are GOG’S CROWD.

Well that is me convinced...amazing logic and proof...

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Jehovah's Limp Witnesses Pointed Me to JW.org When I Was Willing to Talk

by steve2 in

several months ago i approached a nice young couple who were standing by a jw literature stand in my local community.

they were pleasant and polite but incredibly stilted when it came to answering my "innocent" questions about their beliefs.

this was the occasion of jws featuring the article headlined "is religion dying?".

notsurewheretogo

They were pioneers...just getting time in...not interested in speaking to people! What were you thinking??? :)

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Looking for a bit of advice in a difficult situation

by Oversteer in

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i'm looking for a bit of guidance here and not really sure where to turn.

maybe someone has been in a similar situation and can help me out.. currently i'm an awake, baptized jw.

have been for a few years.

notsurewheretogo

It's exactly these situations that I use to my still-in wife...thank you for posting albeit very difficult circumstances for the OP.

But given the GB have come out and said they can be wrong then the above example shows it is utterly futile and stupid to make a decision that may cost you your life IF the information you base that decision on can be wrong.

This is the point I make with my still-in family.

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Australian Royal Commission mentions that G. Jackson was inconsistent

by Daniel1555 in

it's great that the following is officially mentioned in the royal commission's report:.

when asked if the governing body members saw themselves as ‘jehovah god’s spokespeople on earth’, mr geoffrey jackson answered that it ‘would seem to be quite presumptuous to say that we are the only spokesperson that god is using’.

mr jackson’s response seems to be inconsistent with the documentary evidence before the royal commission, which shows that jehovah’s witnesses believe that the governing body is the ‘channel’ by which jehovah’s ‘will’ is communicated to them..

notsurewheretogo

Er well they just admitted that the GB are not inspired nor directed by god and thus get things wrong in policies and doctrines thus was that them admitting they have been presumptous???