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  Oi Cofty

  by Landy in

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  new series of timc started monday.. one of the episodes is on evolution - should be good knowing cox's antipathy towards religion.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b088f2vv.

  sorry you colonials - it's on the bbc so you won't be able to get it.

  serves yourself right for voting for trump!

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  notsurewheretogo

  You say we are so poor we cannot afford to be independent, but that we are doing "tremendously well" under Tories. Which is it?

  
  

  Jeepers SBF...because of the Barnett formula...we are subsidised by the rest of the UK, without it we simply cannot afford the public spending at present. What we contribute to the rest of the UK is far less than what we receive.

  
  

  Those who say an independent Scotland would be a disaster need to explain what they think is so uniquely inadequate about Scotland or Scottish people that they can't be trusted to govern themselves.

  
  

  Easy...it is not a case of "think"...the facts are there...financially it would ruin us if we went independent...its not complicated...its simple math. We may both agree we want to be independent and all that comes with it but that fact is we cannot without massive reform...and I'm not willing to "gamble" that until it is all laid out just how it will work.

  And we don't need to explain anything, the separatists need to explain why it would be better and how it would work as we don't want anything to change unless it will work...we are not the ones pushing for change...the SNP are and thus the onus lies with you/them to explain how it will work being independent.

  I've not read anywhere by any SNP manifesto, by any SNP politician or supporter just how it will work that is credible and not full of lies, half-truths or plain wrong facts.

  This why we say it must be the braveheart factor that sways lots of SNP supporters because there is a huge lack on info out there that shows how it would work if we were independent, how can anyone make a decision with a lack of info. That is why the 2014 indyref failed.
  
  
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  Oi Cofty

  by Landy in

  1. social
  2. current

  new series of timc started monday.. one of the episodes is on evolution - should be good knowing cox's antipathy towards religion.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b088f2vv.

  sorry you colonials - it's on the bbc so you won't be able to get it.

  serves yourself right for voting for trump!

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  notsurewheretogo

  But how do you reconcile the fact we simply cannot afford to go it alone without massive cuts to public spending and raising of taxes at least 5 times what we have now?

  I'm all for some of what you say, the ideas are great in parts but the math means, at present, we cannot do it.

  You mention how can we improve things if we don't take action, or might it be better if we go alone..."might", "chance", "risk"....I'm not a betting man, I'm not gambling my country, my people and my childrens future on a gamble, a bet, a chance it may be better...especially when the facts suggest we would be in a hellish position financially.

  Scotland, and the UK, have done tremendously well in the last five years or so under the torries/lib dems and now the torries fully...its not perfect or ideal but much of what they have done has seen the UK prosper in real hard times, I'm not convinced anyone could have done better.

  The SNP won the majority of their seats in Scotland in the last GE...they will fail to do anything of any real means in Scotland and in the the next GE they will lose their seats again...it occurs in politics all the time....in times of hardship the more nationalistic parties become more popular...fail...then it swings back again.
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  Oi Cofty

  by Landy in

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  new series of timc started monday.. one of the episodes is on evolution - should be good knowing cox's antipathy towards religion.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b088f2vv.

  sorry you colonials - it's on the bbc so you won't be able to get it.

  serves yourself right for voting for trump!

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  notsurewheretogo

  What I can't understand from unionists is two things. First of all why impugn the motives of those you disagree with? Why can't supporters of independence simply be what they appear to be: those who happen think the best people to make choices about the government of Scotland are the people who live in Scotland? Why all this nonsense about ambition, braveheart and anti-English nonsense? The campaign was about the NHS, the EU, pro-immigration, proper use of oil and renewable resources, choosing own government, getting rid of Trident and so on.
  Second thing is the utter conviction unionists seem to have that Scotland governing itself could be nothing other than an unmitigated disaster. What is it about Scotland or the people who live in Scotland that makes you so convinced they could not successfully govern themsleves? Denmark, Switzerland, Norway, Ireland, Luxembourg - all very successful small countries. But Scotland we are told would be a disaster. Why of all nations are we uniquely incapable?

  1) But you are labelling me/others a unionist...I'm not...I would love an independent Scotland...just has to be done right...the SNP have fudged figures and facts to support their cause...the real facts show the real picture. Not everyone who voted no wants Scotland to remain the UK, many of us did so because a SNP ruled Scotland is a disaster. If another party actually published a manifesto that worked I would vote yes.

  2) Economics...pure and simple...we spend too much and don't earn enough...if we went independent then austerity measures the likes that would put Greece to shame would have to be implemented...ironic given that Sturgeon lashed out at Cameron over his austerity measures.
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  Oi Cofty

  by Landy in

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  new series of timc started monday.. one of the episodes is on evolution - should be good knowing cox's antipathy towards religion.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b088f2vv.

  sorry you colonials - it's on the bbc so you won't be able to get it.

  serves yourself right for voting for trump!

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  notsurewheretogo

  The referendum campaign was about avoiding another Iraq war, removing Trident weapons of mass destruction, saving the NHS, staying in the EU, pro-immigration, Scotland getting the governments it votes for.

  
  

  Utter nonsense...the lies and non-facts coming from the SNP, backed by the BBC in Scotland shows their true colours...they want to be independent irrelevant of the damage it does to Scotland or the people in it. They are hellbent in making a name for themselves at all cost....at the cost of all sensibleness and reasonableness.
  

  If the 2014 ref had gone YES we would be in deep trouble....Nicoliar is still spouting things off that are not just untrue but warped to support her cause.

  
  

  SBF, I thought you could see all this like the 55% of us who said NO...we especially given we can see through the lies because we have done so with the WT!

  
  

  I'm still utterly baffled how anyone can support the SNP unless it is just the Braveheart factor because everything they say is not backed up by fact and everything they want to achieve will utterly damage everything about Scotland and its people, its economy etc.
  
  
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  Oi Cofty

  by Landy in

  1. social
  2. current

  new series of timc started monday.. one of the episodes is on evolution - should be good knowing cox's antipathy towards religion.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b088f2vv.

  sorry you colonials - it's on the bbc so you won't be able to get it.

  serves yourself right for voting for trump!

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  notsurewheretogo

  Can I say...Amen Cofty? :)
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  Some apostates are coming across as crazed psychopaths

  by jambon1 in

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  i'm not sure whether or not my view on this is correct so please leave your input.

  in recent months i've been viewing youtube videos.

  again, it might just be my view but there has been an increased amount of random people grabbing a camera and doing vlogs.

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  notsurewheretogo

  Yes...negative reinforcement...just makes the JW more convinced they are right.

  But I also understand why some who leave feel they need to vent...but it never results in anything good.
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  Mexico branch......Now closing!!!

  by krismalone in

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  a circuit overseer friend of mine serving in latin america called me today to say hi.

  i asked him what's new and he dropped the news that they have received notification that the branch in mexico will be closing!!

  this branch also called the central american branch (although located in mexico) oversees all of mexico's 800,000+ publishers plus all 7 countries of central america of over 100,000 publishers.

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  notsurewheretogo

  We need proper confirmation via published letters about the closure of the Mexican branch but more importantly the change in Circuit Overseers to support themselves as that seems very unlikely.
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  The Governing Body are doubling down on dogma!

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
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  in case you were wondering if the governing body we're going to become kinder and gentler, the answer is a big "no!!!

  in the current study edition of the wt magazine, the sheeple are reminded of some very important key points.

  1) god has an organization ( corporation ) that you must respect.. 2) only the gb/faithful slave can dispense spiritual food and only the gb/faithful slave can interpret the bible.. 3) individual dubs absolutely cannot learn "truth" on their own.. 4) god requires "unity of doctrine.

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  notsurewheretogo

  1) God has an organization ( corporation ) that you must respect.
  2) ONLY the GB/Faithful Slave can dispense spiritual food and only the GB/Faithful slave can interpret the Bible.
  3) Individual Dubs absolutely cannot learn "truth" on their own.
  4) God requires "unity of doctrine." [ Guardians of Doctrine?!?! ]

  But when you add their comment that they can get things wrong and that they are not inspired and are not infallible then the above 4 points make zero sense.
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  help me think like an elder

  by Homer notsimpson in

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  ok guys, i have been tasked to ask for your opinions regarding this case.. and be honest.

  my brother sexted a girl a little over a year ago, they never dated, and she got mad at him.... she got engaged and the engagement ended in august.. she attempted suicide, then talked to the elders an told him she was gonna tell on him too, now that was in august, the sister told my brother that since she didn't know his hall they couldn't do anything.. we found that doesn't seem right, so hes been freaking out, but ita now two days away from 2017 and the elders haven't speaked to him yet.. why could that be?

  could they give him all this time to confess?

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  notsurewheretogo

  First of all she will need to explain what is sexting to the elders..

  
  

  No, there is an elders letter about sexting

  
  

  So they will ask to see the nude messages? The elders will ask to see the person naked?

  
  

  Well who has them? The sister? They may ask to see them on her phone but again your brother can deny he sent them, and no they will not ask to see someone naked...ever.
  
  
  
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  help me think like an elder

  by Homer notsimpson in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok guys, i have been tasked to ask for your opinions regarding this case.. and be honest.

  my brother sexted a girl a little over a year ago, they never dated, and she got mad at him.... she got engaged and the engagement ended in august.. she attempted suicide, then talked to the elders an told him she was gonna tell on him too, now that was in august, the sister told my brother that since she didn't know his hall they couldn't do anything.. we found that doesn't seem right, so hes been freaking out, but ita now two days away from 2017 and the elders haven't speaked to him yet.. why could that be?

  could they give him all this time to confess?

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  notsurewheretogo

  I had a case in our hall when I was an elder when a married woman admitted after a talk about honesty that she gave oral sex to many boys when she was growing up in a different hall.

  Whilst we helped her and her husband (who naturally was miffed) through it we had the duty to notify the other congregation of the boys, teenagers, what had happened.

  We sent a letter...heard nothing...no action was ever taken against them.

  Tell your brother to deny it, even if she saved the picture just get your brother to say he lost his phone for a while so any messages he never sent.

  There is no way in hell they would write to the branch over a minor issue like this.