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  OK, We Need To Talk About The Crazy New Great Tribulation Video...

  by pale.emperor in

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  if you haven't seen it already, skip to 1:14:30 in lloyds video and watch the craziness unfold.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2y7f7-k5wo.

  i'd love to hear everyone's thoughts on this.. they're digging themselves a great hole here, in about 30 years time they'll be claiming this video was a mere "speculation" and that "some people" got the wrong ideas..

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  Slim...

  1919 does give them more time than 1914 because it is not tied fo “this generation”.
  1919 simply marks the re-establishment of pure worship and the endtime can stretch from that date indefinitely.
  Keeping 1919 affirms the authority of the GB-faithful slave chosen in that year, without tying them down to 1914-generation teaching.
  For example Seventh Day Adventists believe the endtime and investigative judgement began in 1844 and continue to stretch this out.

  But still Satan has a "short period of time" from when he was thrown down to the earth, which they still teach is 1914. If they ever change 1914 as not the birth of the kingdom or the start of the signs of the last day with Satan on the earth they are in a world of pain as that affects a lot of their teachings.

  I agree they are trying to mention 1914 less and more on 1919 but the reality it that it doesn't change much.
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  OK, We Need To Talk About The Crazy New Great Tribulation Video...

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you haven't seen it already, skip to 1:14:30 in lloyds video and watch the craziness unfold.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2y7f7-k5wo.

  i'd love to hear everyone's thoughts on this.. they're digging themselves a great hole here, in about 30 years time they'll be claiming this video was a mere "speculation" and that "some people" got the wrong ideas..

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  Slim...the issue with 1914 is not just faulty prophecy or chronlogically incorrect.

  1919 is only 5 years after 1914 and they still teach that Satan has a "short period of time"...whether 1914 or 1919 the fact is we are 100 years from that and getting further away from it.

  The reason why we on this forum are stating they need to drop 1914 is the very same reason they will need to eventually drop 1919....it's too long ago and nothing has happened as to what they say will happen.
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  OK, We Need To Talk About The Crazy New Great Tribulation Video...

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you haven't seen it already, skip to 1:14:30 in lloyds video and watch the craziness unfold.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2y7f7-k5wo.

  i'd love to hear everyone's thoughts on this.. they're digging themselves a great hole here, in about 30 years time they'll be claiming this video was a mere "speculation" and that "some people" got the wrong ideas..

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  notsurewheretogo

  but I believe this is the first time the Watchtower stated if any of the 144,000 would be on Earth at Armageddon which is a "no". That creates a real dilemma for them with increased partakers.

  No, they taught years ago that during the GT but before the Big A that all anointed would be in heaven...if they are alive during the GT then they are "taken" to heaven so all 144,000 slaughter innocent ones.
  
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  New Upcoming Changes - No More Publisher Record Cards & Reporting Hours

  by thedepressedsoul in

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  publisher record cards and reporting hours will be going away.

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  coming soon.. made this post 4 years ago, it happened - https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/24020002/kingdom-consolidation-sales-coming-reliable-source.

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  Sorry, not buying it...the WT has kept the "ministry" at the forefront all its damn life and to remove the one thing that keeps people in check, recording hours, will demotivate dubs.

  You got a brother and sister, young and married with no kids...they do 8 hours a month each to be seen to be "in the truth".

  If they do not record hours anymore they will be motivated to do less because the only reason they do 8 hours a month is to be seen and record hours and send them to their Book Overlord.

  NOT recording hours will undoubtedly means less hours will be done by dubs...and the WT will not have that.
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  2018 BRANCH ORGANIZATION Manuel Says The members of the Governing Body do not regard themselves as the leaders of Jehovah's people.

  by Fabian in

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  2. bible

  thanks to atlantis, this statement is mentioned on chapter 1 paragraph 1 in the middle.

  but i like how the statement says members but the sentence right before has the governing body dudes in a collective whole like voltron here is the paragraph in whole.

  1. governing body: the governing body of jehovah's witnesses is made up of brothers who are anointed servants of jehovah god.

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  "The Governing Body is organized to take the lead as Jehovah directs it by holy spirit. "

  Clearly Jehoover doesn't know what he is doing then...either that or the Holy Spirit doesn't want to co-operate because if there is any direction it is clearly wrong given all the changes in the recent years.

  Question...I used to knock on doors and tell everyone that this "literal" generation of people in 1914 would see "the end of the system". I was directed to do so by the GB via their approved publications as there was a whole damn chapter devoted to the "Generation" in the Knowledge book.

  That was wrong according to the current teachings...so who got it wrong? Was it:

  • Jehoover directing incorrectly?
  • The GB not applying the correct direction?
  • The HS not conveying Jehoover's thoughts to the GB correctly?

  Either one of those has to be right and if any are right then you can't ever trust the direction coming from the GB ergo like the "scripture" says...do not follow men.

  Hence I exited. Logic wins.
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  The King of the North has now entered into the 'land of decoration' (the Spiritual Estate of Jehovah's People) - Annual Meeting

  by Listener in

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  the final part of the october, 2018 annual meeting has now been released of jw org tv.the following includes a transcript of mark sanderson's speech for those that don't want to listen to the broadcast.. we have long held that the land of decoration is the "spiritual estate of jehovah's people"... now brothers what can we say about all these events that have taken place (referring to recent events in russia) in such a short period of time?

  well, truly, if you're a student of the history of god's organization, you can say these events are unprecedented in our history.

  we've never seen a country or a territory with 175,000 witnesses of jehovah go under ban.

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  So as the GB sees the massive increase of public exposure due top their child abuse policies they release a statement saying a prophecy has been fulfilled and persecution is to be increased.

  Well never saw that coming...joke.
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  Flat Earth and Jw. Not possible?

  by Earthmeasured in

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  sorry for my poor english, i hope to make not too many mistakes.

  im a jw and in the last three years i have studied a lot the topic of the earth being flat.

  i have a good scientific background so im not stupid or crazy.

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  Where is our OP?
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  Flat Earth and Jw. Not possible?

  by Earthmeasured in

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  sorry for my poor english, i hope to make not too many mistakes.

  im a jw and in the last three years i have studied a lot the topic of the earth being flat.

  i have a good scientific background so im not stupid or crazy.

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  notsurewheretogo

  You have to prove what you say

  We don't have to...the thousands of pieces of evidence show the earth is curved...it is YOU that has to show conclusively and undeniably that all people and all evidence that the earth is curved is incorrect and your belief that the earth is flat is correct based on hard evidence.

  And if you haven't worked it out yet you haven't done any of that.
  
  
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  Flat Earth and Jw. Not possible?

  by Earthmeasured in

  1. watchtower
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  sorry for my poor english, i hope to make not too many mistakes.

  im a jw and in the last three years i have studied a lot the topic of the earth being flat.

  i have a good scientific background so im not stupid or crazy.

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  notsurewheretogo

  You stated a belief you have, offer no proof and disregard any evidence and disregard people asking you questions by you replying with other questions.

  Troll.
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  Flat Earth and Jw. Not possible?

  by Earthmeasured in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  sorry for my poor english, i hope to make not too many mistakes.

  im a jw and in the last three years i have studied a lot the topic of the earth being flat.

  i have a good scientific background so im not stupid or crazy.

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  notsurewheretogo

  You are a troll...you are ignoring every post and posting back without discussing...why not agree or disagree with shepherdless?