Posts by notsurewheretogo

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Construction Halts & other cutbacks - Here's what I think happened

by Listener in

to get to the point straight away i think the crane accident that occurred at warwick was a significant catalyst that has caused the org.

to change its plans suddenly.. list of assumptions, not all of them are validated.

- there was a serious crane accident that occurred at warwick approx.

notsurewheretogo

Any more details on the crane accident 5 months ago? I never knew this...

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When did the Watchtower start opposing evolution with respect to animals?

by slimboyfat in

the photo-drama of creation (1912) says that god directed the evolution of animals into their current "fixed" forms, but that humans were created directed.

the divine plan of the ages said the same thing.

(various editions late 1800s to early 1900s) the 1898 booklet on evolution opposes the evolution of man but doesn't discuss animal evolution.

notsurewheretogo

You have to remember that the term "evolution" generally used by dubs and by the WT actually means the start of life rather than the gradually changing of species according to their environment.

The WT say they don't believe in "evolution" but refer to it many times when species adapt and change what they are, like the peppered moth.

And we all know about the super evolution required after the flood if you believe that.

Granted, they never say it occurs cross species where it actually does but most of the time when dubs or WT talk about evolution they actually mean Abiogenesis.

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Any Scottish members?

by superstevie in

hi,.

i am a former member of a congregation in central scotland, wondered if there were any others from that area?.

notsurewheretogo

I'm up in the Highlands!

The Rugby still hurts....as does my head after the whisky!

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Intriguing - but Unsubstantiated!

by The Searcher in

according to one source on a western european 'apostate' website, the org's plan is to abandon the name "jehovah's witnesses" in the future, and replace it with "worshippers of jehovah.".

http://www.bruderinfo-aktuell.de/index.php/fixnews/#comment-4313 .

the gist of the account appears to be a repeat of rutherford's re-branding and debunking of old predictions made by the previous shower of fakers.

notsurewheretogo

Sorry but this is just nonsense...jw.org is for a reason...they ain't changing their name...I'll run through my local KH naked on video if they do.

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Intriguing - but Unsubstantiated!

by The Searcher in

according to one source on a western european 'apostate' website, the org's plan is to abandon the name "jehovah's witnesses" in the future, and replace it with "worshippers of jehovah.".

http://www.bruderinfo-aktuell.de/index.php/fixnews/#comment-4313 .

the gist of the account appears to be a repeat of rutherford's re-branding and debunking of old predictions made by the previous shower of fakers.

notsurewheretogo

Change would allow them to distance themselves from teachings like
"The overlapping generation of 1914 will not die"
"No Blood but fractions ok"
That was a teaching of "Worshippers of Jehovah
but we are------"INSERT NEW BRAND NAME HERE"
We're different.

Yeah...and then.

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Have you heard the one about "Back to the Future" Predicting 911??

by EndofMysteries in

when somebody posted this on fb, i was anxious to see how ridiculous it would be, probably worse then the gb prophecies, etc.

after watching the clip, i honestly don't know what to believe.

at the very least it's very entertaining and interesting.

notsurewheretogo

I love conspiracy theories and that is up there as one of the best! Very entertaining as you say.

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Geoffrey Jackson wanting to speak to Jesus

by notsurewheretogo in

i'm still amazed he said this when he was questioned by the rc in austraila.... if anyone is in any doubt that the gb are "full on in" then that statement he made just proves these gb guys are 100% captive to the concept that they are chosen by god to be guardians of the galaxy er i mean doctrine.

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these guys actual think, 100%, they are anointed and chosen by god to run his physical organisation on earth and that they will indeed co-rule in heaven with jc...geoffrey wants to chat to jc about the inadequate child abuse policies that the wt have since jc actually runs the show from heaven.. the gb are not master criminals or intelligent people who know how to dupe people or trick them, they fully believe 100% the bull they preach.. mental..

notsurewheretogo

I'm still amazed he said this when he was questioned by the RC in Austraila...

If anyone is in any doubt that the GB are "full on in" then that statement he made just proves these GB guys are 100% captive to the concept that they are chosen by God to be Guardians of the Galaxy er I mean Doctrine.

These guys actual think, 100%, they are anointed and chosen by God to run His physical organisation on earth and that they will indeed co-rule in heaven with JC...Geoffrey wants to chat to JC about the inadequate child abuse policies that the WT have since JC actually runs the show from heaven.

The GB are not master criminals or intelligent people who know how to dupe people or trick them, they fully believe 100% the bull they preach.

Mental.

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Did an EX-JW wake you up to TTATT or did you put the effort to wake up yourself?

by John Aquila in

how many of us were woken up by some apostate yelling false prophets at a convention?.

how many of us were woken up by someone holding a sign and yelling, what happened to 1975.

how many of us were coerced to investigate the wt because some ex-jw pulled up a bunch of old watchtowers magazines and told us to read the false predictions?.

notsurewheretogo

What an interesting thread...and some cracking replies.

I was asked on the ministry by a young priest how do I know the JW's teach "the truth" since we never check against other sources...it was a good point and we had a good chat about it and he pointed to the date of the destruction of Jerusalem as an example.

So for months I got up at 6am and researched for 2 hours prior to going to work and naturally I eventually had to concede that 607 cannot be accounted for and the only line of reasoning a JW can use is "it must be right as it comes from the GB and fulfills 1914 prophecy".

I was an elder at this point and from here I branched out into other studies until I stumbled on here as a guest, on JWSurvey.com and JWFacts.com.

I spent a few months fighting myself internally until one day it just hit...."this is not the truth and JW's are wrong".

After I came to that conclusion the rest was easy...resigned as an elder...stopped going to meetings...took me a few months to get mentally out but now I'm the happiest I've ever been.

I've also come to realize that if others are to do the same in my congregation or my still-in family then they too must do the journey I did, me telling them does little, all I can do is point them to areas and subjects to research.

But I'm not bitter about it all...I learned some life lessons and developed better social skills but naturally you can do this in a better way and now the hard part is to get my wife and kids out.

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Another brave girl tells of her Abuse by JW's !

by Phizzy in

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/abused-brother-shunned-jehovahs-witnesses-10233281.

this poor girl was abused by her "non-jw" (never baptised ?

) brother, then was totally abused by the jw elders by their lack of care for her in any way, and then by her jw family, read the in-depth article, link above..

notsurewheretogo

What an awful story...but thanks for posting.

“I was told they would strongly advise me against reporting it to the police,” she says. “It would bring reproach on God’s name and look bad for the Jehovah’s Witnesses.

She should sue their asses off...

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ex-jw-uk

by bigmac in

jw
friends

i'm quite new to this site, & have realised some members have a union jack symbol under their avatar.

i don't.. could we have a "show of hands" from any uk members?

i've already found several by reading older posts..

notsurewheretogo

Highlands of Scotland for me!