Posts by notsurewheretogo

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Edinburgh Business Trip

by azor in

jw
friends

i'm traveling to edinburgh in october.

i'm from southern california and i was hoping i could meet some on this board that are near that area for lunch or an early dinner.

please pm me if you would like to have a little apostate gathering there?

notsurewheretogo

I'll be in Edinburgh for a week in January so will gladly offer to meet up with any who want to. We all have stories to tell.

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GB "... it can make mistakes when explaining the Bible ..." Simplified version WT Feb 2017

by freddo in

study article: who is leading god's people today?

start of paragraph 12.. standard version: "the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.

therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction.".

notsurewheretogo

It's mental isn't it...please put faith 100% in the organisation...and oh we be wrong that may affect your life or even take your life...batshit crazy.

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Edinburgh Business Trip

by azor in

jw
friends

i'm traveling to edinburgh in october.

i'm from southern california and i was hoping i could meet some on this board that are near that area for lunch or an early dinner.

please pm me if you would like to have a little apostate gathering there?

notsurewheretogo

Sadly I'm working so cannot make it...pity as I would have loved to.

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the feb 2017 wt is being reviewed here because of the "neither inspired nor infallible" potential of the gb.. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6237447308443648/major-doctrinal-changes-must-on-way.

this indeed has been stated in the past.. an equally interesting phrase in that paragraph is: "of course, jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food.".

again, wt is using the "jesus never said" line.. what would make more sense is: "jesus never said that the food would be imperfect or harmless.".

notsurewheretogo

Harmful?

Organ Transplants - NOT ALLOWED - Awake! November 15, 1967 p. 702

Those who submit to such operations are thus living off the flesh of another human. That is cannibalistic.

Organ Transplants - ALLOWED - The Watchtower, March 15, 1980 p.31

Some Christians might feel that taking into their bodies any tissue or body part from another human is cannibalistic.

For 13 years IF you wanted to be faithful to Jehoover and needed an organ transplant to live...you had to die.

HARMFUL ain't the word.

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Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way

by notsurewheretogo in

the statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?

" in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.

is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".

notsurewheretogo

I don't believe there is a major change on the horizon. The article is a triumph story about the GB. Holy Spirit, Angel help, God's approval etc. I think it is a clarification to the rank and file to set thinks straight about the past and not about the future!

And yet now when the GB reveals "new light" more than the usual dubs may now think "Is that right? Because they just said they can err in doctrine"

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Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way

by notsurewheretogo in

the statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?

" in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.

is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".

notsurewheretogo

I get the same impression and maybe I know a little more than you about it.

Eh? What do you mean?

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Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way

by notsurewheretogo in

the statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?

" in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.

is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".

notsurewheretogo

@Ding

A JW would say that Jehovah does direct the GB. It's just that they're only human so they make mistakes. No big deal.

Explain how that works? Jehovah DOES direct them but they don't listen? If they make mistakes even if Jehoover directs them then the result is still the same as if Jehoover were not directing them...ie the doctrines are wrong.

The GB cannot say they ARE directed by God yet get things wrong...that impiles God is getting it wrong.

If the GB get things wrong policy wise and doctrine wise just what is being "directed" by God then?

The cleaning rota?

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Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way

by notsurewheretogo in

the statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?

" in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.

is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".

notsurewheretogo

The most common thing we hear from our JW family is...."OBEY, OBEY, OBEY." Obedience is one of the major bullet points of being part of a cult.

But most dubs will have never read that the GB can be wrong. Most "think" they are inspired by God (even though the GB said a long time ago they are not) so to see it in writing and discuss it at the WT meeting will be interesting to these ones who are like OBEY OBEY OBEY.

Point it out to them that they may be pissing off God by obeying a wrong doctrine.

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Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way

by notsurewheretogo in

the statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?

" in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.

is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".

notsurewheretogo

At the WT study, JWs will marvel at how humble the GB is to admit that they are neither inspired nor infallible.
Then they will resolve to double down on obeying them without question and to wait on Jehovah to make any corrections that may be needed.

Interesting though.

How will Jehovah make corrections given that He is not directing the GB?

How can anyone obey without question when what you are obeying may be wrong?

Imagine a child needing a blood transfusion now to save their lives and the parents have just read that WT study article that the GB may get doctrines wrong. How can they obey them by refusing a blood transfusion when the GB MAY be wrong about their interpretation of the meaning of that scripture about blood?

You may have future JC's where the person involved can say "well the GB may have it wrong, look it says here that they can err in doctrines".

A dub can turn round and say to an elder "Is it wise to obediently follow 100% what the GB says when they themselves admit they can be wrong in matters?"

What is now the difference between say Catholics (a man in charge, no direct inspiration from God and can get doctrines wrong and change them) and the GB (group of men in charge, no direct inspiration from God and can get doctrines wrong and change them)?

This is why I say this WT opens up a can of worms in my opinion. To say, in print, the GB can get it wrong means if anyone follows it blindly and obediently then it is just the same as other religions in that they are following men.

And to follow it blindly just adds to the fact it is indeed a cult.

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Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way

by notsurewheretogo in

the statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?

" in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.

is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".

notsurewheretogo

Cracking list of references @punkofnice

@Tenacious...the thing is, they do not "receive" any light at all...according to what they now say in the Feb WT...they just "guess".