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  HELP needed from folks in UK, esp. in Scotland!

  by WTS Archive in

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  2. friends

  tl;dr: if you live either in scotland or in other parts of uk and you don't mind traveling, you might be able to help a fellow ex-jw by being present during a courtcase where she alone has to face more than two dozens of jws who have ruined their business.

  please contact me directly for details on when and where the court case will be held (i will know these details in few days probably).

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  Can't find anything online about it.
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  November JW broadcast is up, this time on not telling the truth, shunning

  by bohm in

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  november broadcast is up:.

  https://www.jw.org/download/?fileformat=mp4&output=html&pub=jwb&issue=201611.

  we learn interesting things.

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  notsurewheretogo

  Woah woah hang on there....

  1. Champions of truth? But they just admitted they get it wrong
  2. Jesus leads his people? How? Not through the GB or FDS...because they get things wrong as they just admitted!
  3. Jesus trusts the FDS? Why? When they get it wrong as they just admitted!
  4. They remain in Jesus' teaching? How? As they get things wrong as they just admitted!
  5. Deep bond to each other? What? How is that proof?
  6. High morals? I know athiests with high morals.
  7. Neutral? Other groups remain neutral.
  8. Named people? But they themselves named themselves.

  What utter batshit crazy proof...honestly...shite upon shite.
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  Edinburgh Business Trip

  by azor in

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  i'm traveling to edinburgh in october.

  i'm from southern california and i was hoping i could meet some on this board that are near that area for lunch or an early dinner.

  please pm me if you would like to have a little apostate gathering there?

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  notsurewheretogo

  I'll be in Edinburgh for a week in January so will gladly offer to meet up with any who want to. We all have stories to tell.
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  GB "... it can make mistakes when explaining the Bible ..." Simplified version WT Feb 2017

  by freddo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  study article: who is leading god's people today?

  start of paragraph 12.. standard version: "the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.

  therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction.".

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  notsurewheretogo

  It's mental isn't it...please put faith 100% in the organisation...and oh we be wrong that may affect your life or even take your life...batshit crazy.
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  Edinburgh Business Trip

  by azor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm traveling to edinburgh in october.

  i'm from southern california and i was hoping i could meet some on this board that are near that area for lunch or an early dinner.

  please pm me if you would like to have a little apostate gathering there?

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  notsurewheretogo

  Sadly I'm working so cannot make it...pity as I would have loved to.
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  Imperfect Spiritual Food

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the feb 2017 wt is being reviewed here because of the "neither inspired nor infallible" potential of the gb.. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6237447308443648/major-doctrinal-changes-must-on-way.

  this indeed has been stated in the past.. an equally interesting phrase in that paragraph is: "of course, jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food.".

  again, wt is using the "jesus never said" line.. what would make more sense is: "jesus never said that the food would be imperfect or harmless.".

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  Harmful?

  Organ Transplants - NOT ALLOWED - Awake! November 15, 1967 p. 702

  Those who submit to such operations are thus living off the flesh of another human. That is cannibalistic.
  

  Organ Transplants - ALLOWED - The Watchtower, March 15, 1980 p.31

  Some Christians might feel that taking into their bodies any tissue or body part from another human is cannibalistic.
  

  For 13 years IF you wanted to be faithful to Jehoover and needed an organ transplant to live...you had to die.

  HARMFUL ain't the word.
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  Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way

  by notsurewheretogo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?

  " in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.

  is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".

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  I don't believe there is a major change on the horizon. The article is a triumph story about the GB. Holy Spirit, Angel help, God's approval etc. I think it is a clarification to the rank and file to set thinks straight about the past and not about the future!

  
  

  And yet now when the GB reveals "new light" more than the usual dubs may now think "Is that right? Because they just said they can err in doctrine"
  
  
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  Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way

  by notsurewheretogo in

  1. watchtower
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  the statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?

  " in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.

  is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".

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  notsurewheretogo

  I get the same impression and maybe I know a little more than you about it.

  Eh? What do you mean?
  
  
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  Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way

  by notsurewheretogo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?

  " in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.

  is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".

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  notsurewheretogo

  @Ding

  A JW would say that Jehovah does direct the GB. It's just that they're only human so they make mistakes. No big deal.

  Explain how that works? Jehovah DOES direct them but they don't listen? If they make mistakes even if Jehoover directs them then the result is still the same as if Jehoover were not directing them...ie the doctrines are wrong.

  
  

  The GB cannot say they ARE directed by God yet get things wrong...that impiles God is getting it wrong.

  
  

  If the GB get things wrong policy wise and doctrine wise just what is being "directed" by God then?

  
  

  The cleaning rota?
  
  
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  Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way

  by notsurewheretogo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?

  " in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.

  is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".

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  notsurewheretogo

  The most common thing we hear from our JW family is...."OBEY, OBEY, OBEY." Obedience is one of the major bullet points of being part of a cult.

  
  

  But most dubs will have never read that the GB can be wrong. Most "think" they are inspired by God (even though the GB said a long time ago they are not) so to see it in writing and discuss it at the WT meeting will be interesting to these ones who are like OBEY OBEY OBEY.

  
  

  Point it out to them that they may be pissing off God by obeying a wrong doctrine.