Posts by notsurewheretogo

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Who was it who ''rescued'', or ''saved'' you?

by Beth Sarim in

from the borg?.

i point to none other than cal lehman and the towerwatch ministries.

towewatch.com.. the years following the collapse of the ussr and the 1995 generation left a bad taste in my mouth for a long time.

notsurewheretogo

Don Cameron's book "Captive to a Concept" was the nail in the coffin for me. It is an astounding book highlighting the trap JW's are in. "Crisis of Conscience" for sure also helped but Don's book just tipped it for me after I researched as a PIMI elder about the destruction of Jerusalem.

I was challenged by a minister on the doors that 607 BCE was made up by the JW's so I spent 6 months researching it...which left me lurking on here...Cedars website etc and then Don's book was it and I resigned as an elder and a few months later faded never to go back.

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We in the UK are dealing with COVID all wrong

by LoveUniHateExams in

yeah, so boris johnson has plunged the whole of the uk back into a second lockdown.

kids are still going to school (thank goodness!

) but this second lockdown is ruining the economy and killing small businesses.. the first lockdown was forgivable because, at the time, nobody knew what we were dealing with.. but now, we know more and more about covid-19.. it is lethal to elderly people (the average age of deaths with covid in the uk is 82 years - the average age of deaths without covid in the uk is 81 years).. it is also lethal to obese people and people with diabetes.. i'd imagine hiv+ people are another vulnerable group.. but to everyone else, catching covid is fairly similar to catching the flu.

notsurewheretogo

The death rate of COVID may be small to an average person but its a new disease that can easily spread and is lethal to certain groups of people.

Without lockdown vast amounts of those people would be dead...lockdown saved lives.

But it seems all hopes are pinned on a vaccination otherwise it would simply be a pattern of lockdowns and at some point you have to then weigh up the high risk of COVID to these groups versus the detriment to the economy.

Fact is we are only in a second lockdown in the UK, there is progress on a vaccination and thousands if not millions all round the world in those high risk groups are still alive.

My sister (cancer) and elderly parents would certainly be dead if it were not for the lockdowns.

IMO Schools being open makes no sense....kids do not exhibit symptoms but potentially can spread it to the high risk groups.

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Height of mountains before and after the flood .

by smiddy3 in

it was stated many years ago in answer to how did the flood cover the top of all the mountains on earth in noah`s day.?.

mount everest ?.

and it was explained away by saying that the mountains before the flood were a lot smaller / lower than the mountains that exist today.. so there was no problem .. when the deluge began with so much volume of water now covering the earth ( water being heavy ) pushed down into the weakest parts of the earth and raised up in other parts of the earth to where we now have higher mountains than existed before the flood of noah`s day.. in other words mount everest didn`t exist at its present height before the flood and neither did any other high mountain that exists today ,the topography all changed with the noachian flood.

notsurewheretogo

It was 100 billion coming back in the Reasoning book was it not? But given each passing year where the amount of deaths rises as population booms it will be a lot more?

Always amuses me that the dubs ignore evolution yet must believe in a super evolution to go from 2300 BC at the flood of Noah with very limited species to the abundant life we now have only 4,000 years later after flood!

Evolution just sped up in the years but then evolution is not true.

Go figure.

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Congregation Letter - 2021 Magazines Delayed???

by JWTom in

we had a letter read in our cong.

last week that said the public wt and awake would be delayed during the beginning of 2021. meaning we would just use the 2020 version into 2021 and there would be no new ones at the beginning of 2021 until an undetermined time sometime during the 1st half of 2021. at least that is the gist that i remember.

it was in what atlantis provided but there was no further detail....very brief.. any more intel or speculation on this?

notsurewheretogo

How utterly bizarre that the Study Watchtower continues to ignore the coronavirus. The January 2021 has a study on being anxious, without mentioning the virus at all? Or maybe I missed a reference! Because that’s unreal.

I've seen you post this a few times and I agree it is very strange...have they ever mentioned in great detail COVID in any of their publications yet?

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Collapse of JW Org - Possibly on the Horizon?

by JWTom in

this topics get a great deal of discussion here.

what i find interesting is even some of my pimi family is embracing the reality that all is not well with jw.org and that many current jws are just going through the motions due to not having a good way out of the org.

wondering what could realistically lead to the collapse of jw.org in the not distant future?

notsurewheretogo

They sold up for $2 billion yet spend hundreds of millions each year on the CO's, Special Pioneers etc thus that $2 billion will not last long.

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Worldwide preaching campaign targeting government officials.

by smiddy3 in

does anybody know what this message will contain ?

is it designed to provoke a response that will bring persecution on the religion ?

or is it just going to be some meaningless weak campaign to get the rank and file all excited about it and achieving nothing.. or is it going to suggest to the government officials that this mob could very well be the next jonestown /wacol incident and we need to act now.

notsurewheretogo

I'd say its more of an exercise to bolster the dubs, they will think they are really making a point and that the end is near.

99.9999% of government officials will disregards any message but the millions of dubs will cream themselves over hitting Satan's system hard with a message.

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IICSA hearings resume next week

by Corney in

the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse (iicsa) will hold additional virtual public hearings in the child protection in religious organisations and settings investigation next week.. the timetable was released today: https://www.iicsa.org.uk/key-documents/20825/view/virtual-cpiros-timetable-week-3-10-august-2020.pdf .

five witnesses will testify on the jw issue next monday and tuesday, 10 and 11 august:.

- pr-a5, a victim abused by ministerial servant peter stewart;.

notsurewheretogo

I noted too how Gillies "skirted" around many questions with his answers not answering the actual questions.

It sadly does not have the same impact as Angus did in the Australian questioning.

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IICSA hearings resume next week

by Corney in

the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse (iicsa) will hold additional virtual public hearings in the child protection in religious organisations and settings investigation next week.. the timetable was released today: https://www.iicsa.org.uk/key-documents/20825/view/virtual-cpiros-timetable-week-3-10-august-2020.pdf .

five witnesses will testify on the jw issue next monday and tuesday, 10 and 11 august:.

- pr-a5, a victim abused by ministerial servant peter stewart;.

notsurewheretogo

It was a good watch....Gilles admitted no training to elders formally on child abuse which is a requirement for a charity...interesting times.

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Galaxies and 49000 years

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

now today this is of course a non-issue.

the wt has embraced the big bang/old earth etc just not evolution.

in fact the creator book has some decent info.. however i have a good copy of the 1958 paradise book.

notsurewheretogo

The society taught this nonsense (7000 day creation) at the same time teaching organ transplants were a disfellowshipping offence due to a) your body "ate" the organ transplanted to make a new one thus cannibalism and b) you absorbed the personality of the donor.

In other words, batshit crazy stuff.

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COVID-19 won’t go away until Joe Biden or Hillary Clinton are in the Oval Office

by hoser in

jw
friends

it’s no secret that the mainstream media runs the show and that they can’t stand trump.

for good reason because trump has been demeaning to journalists on several occasions.. life lesson for donald trump: don’t make fun of people that have the power to destroy you!

nobody likes getting laughed at.. don’t get me wrong.

notsurewheretogo

You seem to assume that the £10 billion deficit figure is not politically motivated and misleading

It's not..it has been confirmed by many financial experts and non Scots.