was just going through a few topics and this caught my attention, and since that thread looks pretty much dead i thought i would create a new one to add my thoughts .. so i would start by replying to as much criticisms as i can okay.
@jam: .
the purpose of the flood, because man grieved him to.
leoliaia-
You can imagine any fantasy of things happening contrary to history and then devise an all-powerful being that made it happen that way.
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...leoliaia...at what point in history does man begin to imagine and conjure fantasies?...
...at what point of evolution (i don't know if you subscribe to evolution) does man or its ancestor/s begin to fathom such thoughts?...
i would like to use this thread as a means of organizing all unanswered questions/points made on threads i started since obviously i could not answer something when i was banned..
Recovery...
...I've read about you around here...you've been deemed guilty of something very sinister it seems...
...what's your take on this place so far?...
i've been giving some thought recently to what's going on in the minds of the individual governing body members, and what makes them tick.
the process of listening to their talks for my "getting to know you" youtube video series, though draining, has been very enlightening.
i now feel i know some of their individual personalities a little better than i did previously.. then there has been the tumultuous events of 2012. it's been interesting to note the way the governing body has responded to some of these issues, and how in most cases their responses have been woefully inadequate or even counter-productive as regards their long-term interests.. for example:.
As a JW, I don't recall taking an "oath.. to keep this entity stable at any cost."
panhandel-
...that's right...you didn't...
i've been giving some thought recently to what's going on in the minds of the individual governing body members, and what makes them tick.
the process of listening to their talks for my "getting to know you" youtube video series, though draining, has been very enlightening.
i now feel i know some of their individual personalities a little better than i did previously.. then there has been the tumultuous events of 2012. it's been interesting to note the way the governing body has responded to some of these issues, and how in most cases their responses have been woefully inadequate or even counter-productive as regards their long-term interests.. for example:.
Sorry Elephant, that comment about the French was intended for people with a sense of humour.
...tsk, tsk Cedars...sorry I made you explain...
i've been giving some thought recently to what's going on in the minds of the individual governing body members, and what makes them tick.
the process of listening to their talks for my "getting to know you" youtube video series, though draining, has been very enlightening.
i now feel i know some of their individual personalities a little better than i did previously.. then there has been the tumultuous events of 2012. it's been interesting to note the way the governing body has responded to some of these issues, and how in most cases their responses have been woefully inadequate or even counter-productive as regards their long-term interests.. for example:.
If you were looking for an evil mastermind, I would point to Splane as a far more likely candidate. He speaks with an unnerving calmness and a slightly glazed look in his eyes - quitessential bond villain if you're searching for one. And he reportedly speaks French! I could just imagine him holed up in a mountain-top fortress somewhere in the Swiss Alps stroking a cat.
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...Cedars...tsk, tsk...what's your 'beef' with the French now?...
...i guaranty this is going to induce a few chuckles..
the governing body's decision to declare themselves the faithful and discreet slave appears pretty arrogant and presumptuous.
since most of us regard the governing body as arrogant and presumptuous, it's easy to conclude that is the reason that they did this.. what if something else is going on?.
remember when steven unthank was able to get the faithful and discreet slave charged in australia for failing to comply with the working with children act?
templeelijah said:
Why? JWs are the Fuse
Could you pick a worse fuse than a bunch of dull, poor, narrow-minded people?
...solomon...i find it almost comical to see how two minds (yours and mine) at entirely different ends of the 'spectrum' can amiably chuckle at such dramatics...
i've been giving some thought recently to what's going on in the minds of the individual governing body members, and what makes them tick.
the process of listening to their talks for my "getting to know you" youtube video series, though draining, has been very enlightening.
i now feel i know some of their individual personalities a little better than i did previously.. then there has been the tumultuous events of 2012. it's been interesting to note the way the governing body has responded to some of these issues, and how in most cases their responses have been woefully inadequate or even counter-productive as regards their long-term interests.. for example:.
However, don't underestimate the number of JWs out there who know their doctrine and already have doubts. Hearing this "new light" might just be enough to tip a good number over the edge and stimulate them into doing research on websites like jwfacts.com. It may not be millions, but hundreds? Even thousands?Quite possibly. I can see this causing a big dent, put it that way. We'll only know by keeping an eye on the figures over the next two or three years. One thing's for sure, if people do leave because of this - it will be the Governing Body's own doing.
cedars-
...all your qualifiers sound an awful lot like those you accuse the wt of overdepending on...
Qualifiers are often necessary, such as when your evidence or your claim is open to doubt. In such cases, using a qualifier allows you to present your findings with what we can call “confident uncertainty,” which reflects a need to be cautious and critical about the data you’re presenting.
...it seems you are doing the exact same thing the wt is, and just as you belittle it for 'hijacking' the faith of the r&f, I also accuse you of bringing your r&f to your wordy essays and presenting them as facts...
...your 'attacks' are laughable to avoid describing them in more important terms...it is comical to see you swinging at decoys when underneath what you call a mere cult places its elements in place to guaranty its missions' success to the very end...DON"T underestimate the wtower's capacity of influence and tactics ...don't understimate the 'oath' that MANY have made to keep this entity stable at any cost...so that its piece of this world's puzzle is well in place...
...you stated that you've made it your mission to bring this wt to its end...every 'cause' needs its opposer Cedars...it seems you, like many, have fallen neatly into place...
to: all elders in the grover beach congregation of jehovah witnesses, the watchtower corporation and governing body of "jehovah witnesses" .
from: gregg blasingame.
cc: watchtower inc.. dear brothers,.
Greybeard,
this is a wonderfull example of how scriptures can be applied to ANYONE in their favor or against...
...furthermore, as the obove poster indicated, it's too long...why go through such shenanigans when you can just refuse to show up at such jc and be done with it?...
...yet you still refer to these jws as 'brothers', don't take it personal if they chuckle when they read this, you put it in there...
...do yourself a favor 'brother' Blasingame and avoid all this trouble for yourself and your dear 'brothers'...
...hello folks.... ...i've read countless of posts, ideas, opinions, etc here and i'm interested in your response.... ...there is a whole gamut of feelings here from individuals that are simply annoyed with the wt organization, to those that come off as hellbent on putting the org out of comission.... ...others yet seem to have made it their mission in life to eradicate the concept of god himself.... ...to any of these, what is your motivation?
and do you ever doubt that these efforts are futile?
do you feel that you posses the power/ability/means to change the convictions/faiths of the masses?
...hello folks.... ...i've read countless of posts, ideas, opinions, etc here and i'm interested in your response.... ...there is a whole gamut of feelings here from individuals that are simply annoyed with the wt organization, to those that come off as hellbent on putting the org out of comission.... ...others yet seem to have made it their mission in life to eradicate the concept of god himself.... ...to any of these, what is your motivation?
and do you ever doubt that these efforts are futile?
do you feel that you posses the power/ability/means to change the convictions/faiths of the masses?
your responses are most appreciated...
...life, as many of you here can agree on, can be a rather short 'undertaking' let's say...our minds have been given free rein to roam and contemplate as we see fit, our thoughts, ambitions, goals etc. are trully within the realms of our control (unless of course there are psychiatric problems thru no fault of our own)...
...considering how we have in fact been given the freedom to think and 'view' our world as we see fit, why does it seem impossible for everyone here to disconnect from what is obviously a great source of frustration to (in extreme cases) anger bordering on hatred?
...even those that subscribe to the 'idea' of a godless existence are drawn to these debates here, thus making god real by virtue of the very debate over him...
...many who believe in God (thru any religion) will die 'knowing' in their hearts that they believed in something real. Many here could reach their final days having hoped for an end to the wt, and not know for sure if it will ever come, thus my question , is it futile?
...religion has existed since man has existed...man would have to dissappear for religion to do the same, no?
