as all jw's and awakened ex-jw's know, the very existence of the religion is dependent on people's belief that the "holy trinity" of the wtbts, the ccojw, and the governing body (aka the organization) were personally selected by god/christ.. 1) mr. rutherford claimed that this divine choosing occurred circa 1919, and that all anointed members were personally chosen by god/christ to be the faithful slave.
2) in 2013 this long-held, "profound scriptural truth" was discarded by apostates in brooklyn (the present-day governing body) when they personally decided that only gb members were chosen by god/christ to be the faithful slave.
(wt july 2013, p.22, par.
I recently asked a JW who is still my friend (only one left) to answer 3 questions using the bible and the bible only.
1. Show me a 1st century governing body that has a similar structure as we have today.
2. Show me how 1914 was an important year.
3. Show me clear proof for Overlapping Generations.
He could not.
when waking up it often isn't an instant switch, there's a period of time when your conflicted feelings are heightened and most uncomfortable.
can anyone remember specific instances in the time before you fully woke up that made you uncomfortable or guilty, despite you still being a 'believer'?.
i can think of two right now, both about a year or two before i woke up:.
Muddy - Me too. Amazing the power of a cult.
if you are a true believer, then you are toast.
because you will be a slave to everything the watchtower, circuit overseers, elders, pioneers, imply.
believe me, there are not many true believers anymore, and the majority of them are old.
This is not my experience nor of any of the people I still know in the congregations in the area.
It is the opposite! Everyone still in is amped up more than ever.
I say 90% of what you said is Fiction.
when waking up it often isn't an instant switch, there's a period of time when your conflicted feelings are heightened and most uncomfortable.
can anyone remember specific instances in the time before you fully woke up that made you uncomfortable or guilty, despite you still being a 'believer'?.
i can think of two right now, both about a year or two before i woke up:.
Lost in the fog. Yea it is hard when you combine the 2 things of something you are good at and love and thinking you can help others.
But now I am ashamed that I was really good at motivating people to "love jah".
I am sad that I had a part in keeping people in the cult.
the national geographic web-site publishes this story:.
these 12 men shaped christianity—but were they real?.
link: : https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/03/160306-bible-apostle-jesus-christian-religion-ngbooktalk/?cmpid=org=ngp::mc=social::src=facebook::cmp=editorial::add=fb20181222culture-resurfapostlesbooktalk::rid=&sf204668865=1.
It has as much truth to it as Grimms Fairy Tales.
despite denial by the wts of any 1975 armageddon predictions zealous jw's did believe it, openly talked about it, and some even sold houses & belongings in anticipation of it.
do you have or know of any good 1975 stories?.
here's mine.........i was a freshman in college and had quit attending the kh back in hs.
I was a little kid standing at my moms side. She had only been a study at the time.
A pioneer sister was explaining to her that if she did not get baptized before 1975 that she and her kids would die.
My mom asked her about her kids, and she explained that if she was baptized gods love would cover over her kids.
Thus my life in the cult began in the winter of 1974
when waking up it often isn't an instant switch, there's a period of time when your conflicted feelings are heightened and most uncomfortable.
can anyone remember specific instances in the time before you fully woke up that made you uncomfortable or guilty, despite you still being a 'believer'?.
i can think of two right now, both about a year or two before i woke up:.
My big conflict didnt have to do with thinking maybe JWs were right.
My conflict came form two other things.
1. I was an elder for a long time and saw how elders in my hall often did so many stupid things that negatively affected the congregation or individual members. Most of this came for having Uneducated, Ignorant, Power hungry elders (who were not bad people) that thought they were doing the right things but were really not. Almost always feeling they had to be the RIGHT HAND of god dealing out punishment. I hated that so much. Also they could not speak or teach their way out of a paper bag.
I Felt that I needed to stick around to help mitigate the damage.
2. I spent years of hard work and special training I paid for to become a very good public speaker and teacher. I really enjoyed it and people responded with great appreciation.
Mostly because I was real and spoke to issues that made a difference in people's lives, and not just following a stupid outline. I talked about love a lot as well. I was used at conventions on talks that elders don't generally ever give. I also was giving the big talks at Elder Schools.
I LIKED IT. Since I gave up a real education and pursuing a career I really wanted to just do work to get my, this was my MAJOR VALIDATION in life.
It was hard giving it up.
jehovah`s witnesses pride themselves in volunteering to help build k.h.`s ,witnesses who are in the building trades such as plumbing ,electricians ,plasterers , builders , tilers ,etc, that i know of gave of their time and effort to build k.h.`s free of charge ,and in many cases donated said materials as a gift to furthering true worship.. all at no cost to the g.b.
of jehovah`s witnesses at h.q.
usa.
It's the same phenomena that plagued Fox Mulder in The X-Files.
It is how we all used to not notice the herd of elephants in the Kingdom Hall.
there are a lot.
anything blood related was difficult to reasonably prove from a witness perspective.. 1914 was another one.
what can you add to the list?
Haa, all of them. Here are a few.
1. Why god would introduce to Adam and Eve a weapon and the concept a of weapons when he kicked them out of Eden. Flaming Swords.
2. Flood. I could not suspend disbelief after a while. So utterly stupid and falsifiable in a 1000 ways.
3. Balam. That a talking donkey would not be unusual to him. Instead he argues with his talking donkey.
4. That god would somehow codify slavery as ok, that jesus had nothing to say about it.
5. That a girl could get raped, but if no one heard her scream out she could be killed.
6. That a raped girl could be forced to marry her rapist.
7. Generations (haaaa)
8. The whole order of the creation account being somehow accurate. (its not)
Really everything.
i haven’t been to an exjw meetup for sometime.
i live in new jersey.
are there any meetups here?.
Hey I would love to go to a meetup in NJ! Please let me know.
