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DIM and DIM's wife had their baby today

by Mulan in

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in case anyone would like to know, dim and dim's wife's baby girl was born today.. i have pictures.

hehehehe.

Funchback

Jason and Michalena....

Congratulations and warm wishes.

Brian

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10/1/2003 WT: Does God Really Care? Well, DOES HE???

by Funchback in

some highlights...

' there are two photos: 1) a silhouette of a soldier laying flat on his stomach pointing an automatic weapon and 2) a colorless photo of at least 17 children pressed up against barbed-wire in (i assume) a nazi concentration camp.

this cover would lead a person to conclude that god really does not care.

Funchback

Latin assassin asks:

Would a JW tell one of these victims that they survived by chance, and not by God's hand?

They wouldn't say ANYTHING. They would react something like this: "Oh. WOW! Okay." Then, the JWs would start talking about something else.

Latin ass (LOL!) also asks:

If a JW were to knock on the door of a 9/11 widow or orphan, and he/she asked if they would see their loved one again - what would a JW say?

The Dubby would say YES. However, they wouldn't admit that you'd have to be a JW. They would point to the usual resurrection scriptures and offer a Free Home Bible Study (TM).

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10/1/2003 WT: Does God Really Care? Well, DOES HE???

by Funchback in

some highlights...

' there are two photos: 1) a silhouette of a soldier laying flat on his stomach pointing an automatic weapon and 2) a colorless photo of at least 17 children pressed up against barbed-wire in (i assume) a nazi concentration camp.

this cover would lead a person to conclude that god really does not care.

Funchback

Thanks, detective!

and

LOL@ robhic

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10/1/2003 WT: Does God Really Care? Well, DOES HE???

by Funchback in

some highlights...

' there are two photos: 1) a silhouette of a soldier laying flat on his stomach pointing an automatic weapon and 2) a colorless photo of at least 17 children pressed up against barbed-wire in (i assume) a nazi concentration camp.

this cover would lead a person to conclude that god really does not care.

Funchback

Hey, Sis!

How did you guess the correct answer???

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10/1/2003 WT: Does God Really Care? Well, DOES HE???

by Funchback in

some highlights...

' there are two photos: 1) a silhouette of a soldier laying flat on his stomach pointing an automatic weapon and 2) a colorless photo of at least 17 children pressed up against barbed-wire in (i assume) a nazi concentration camp.

this cover would lead a person to conclude that god really does not care.

Funchback

Some Highlights...

On the cover, the title is 'Does God Really Care?' There are two photos: 1) A silhouette of a soldier laying flat on his stomach pointing an automatic weapon and 2) A colorless photo of at least 17 children pressed up against barbed-wire in (I assume) a Nazi concentration camp.

This cover would lead a person to conclude that God really does NOT care. (Note: a cover depicting war and the abuse/mistreatment of children at least made me feel that God doesn't really care). This tactic is a good way to stir up someones emotions and to cause one to read the article. But, will there really be a definitive answer in this magazine? Let us see.

'Many Questions, Few Satisfying Answers' is the first article. It talks about an earthquake in 1755 in the city of Libson and a French writer wrote that the earthquake was the result of divine retribution. Then the WT article mentions the Job story and says "many wonder how a good and loving God can seemingly remain passive in the face of so much suffering and injustice." Then, the WT quotes an athiest:

Nothing can excuse God for allowing the suffering of a child, ... unless, of course, he does not exist.

Next, the WT talks about the Holocaust and World War II. Then, it tries to make the Catholics seem like they don't have any answers, as though they don't have faith in God:

According to a 1997 survey conducted in France, a predominantly Catholic country, some 40 percent of the people doubt the existence of God because of genocides, such as the one that took place in Rwanda in 1994.

and

Why does God not prevent bad things from happening? One Catholic chronicler contends that this question is "a serious obstacle of faith" for many. He asks: "Indeed, is it possible to believe in a God who stands by helplessly while millions of innocent people die and whole populations in the world are massacred and who does nothing to prevent it?"

and

An editorial in the Catholic newspaper La Croix likewise comments: "Whether it be tragedies from history, technological dramas, natural disasters, organized crimes, or the death of a loved one, in each case, horrified eyes look up to the sky. Where is God? They demand an answer. Is he not the Great Indifferent One, the Great Absent One?"

and

Pope John-Paul II dealt with this issue in his 1984 apostolic letter Salvifici Doloris. He wrote: "Whereas the existenceof the world opens the eyes, as it were, of the human soul to the existence of God, to his wisdom, power and greatness, evil and suffering seem to obscure this image, sometimes in a radical way, especially in the daily drama of so many cases of undeserved suffering and so many faults without proper punishment."

Sounds as if the WTS is trying hard to plant seeds of doubt into the Catholics in order to reap them into the JW religion.

Next, under the heading, 'Divine Intervention - WHAT CAN WE EXPECT?', the WT article talks about how God healed a terminally ill King Hezekiah of Judah. The bible shows how the king prayed to God to be healed. God then added 15 years to his life. Usually, God won't grant such requests but since God promised that the Messiah would be born in David's line, he yielded this time. Why? Because Hezekiah didn't have a son yet. (Funchback question: What if Hezekiah said, "To hell with it. I lived a good life and I'm ready to die." Would God have granted him the extra years of life? This makes NO sense. Since it was already predetermined that Hezekiah would have to have a son, why did he even pray to be healed? God would have done it anyway, right?)

The article then cites examples of others who God "intervened" (Moses' deliverance of Israel from slavery, Saul on the road to Damascus, Daniel from the lion's pit, and the three Hebrews in the fiery furnace) and others who God let die (James being killed, Zechariah getting stoned, the massacre of innocents by Herod, and the persecution against Christinas by Roman Emperor Nero).

The WT article then says conclusively that TODAY God is certainly able to deliver his SERVANTS from dangerous situations, and those who feel that they have benefited from his protection ARE NOT TO BE CRITICIZED.

However, it is difficult to say conclusively whether God did or did not intervene in such cases.

Funchback question: What about those who AREN'T JWs? If they claim that they were delivered by God from a dangerous situation are THEY exempt from JW criticism?

Moving on, the article cites exapmles of JWs who survived a tragedy and JWs who didn't. The answer? "Time and unforseen occurence."

Next, totally contradicting their own statement that those who claim divine interventionshould not be criticized, they say this:

Finally, God helps his servants today, NOT by delivering them miraculously, but by giving them his holy spirit and "the power beyond what is normal" to COPE with whatever situation they may face.

So, after all is said and done, God DOES intervene BUT sometimes He doesn't. People (only JWs) have been rescued by God in modern times BUT they also haven't. My conclusion? Luck and being at the right place at the right time (or at the right place at the WRONG time). The solution by this WT article? Take a guess. Is it...

A) "Continue to read God's word daily and pray incessantly. With God's holy spirit, you can learn how God will comfort you and how, in the near future, the years of your life will be extended to time indefinite."

B) "God's word, the bible, is beneficial for mankind, not only for today, but for the future as well. It teaches us how to live and can protect us from many of the perils that we face each day. By reading His word and meditating on it on a daily basis, will give us hope and deliver us from this wicked system of things."

or

C) "Regularly reading this magazine will help you to understand what God has done, is doing, and will yet do that can bring you happiness now and a solid hope for the future."

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My FIFTH anniversary is on Saturday....

by LDH in

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hi guys!

i've been trying to keep up with all of your lives, but i've been so busy lately.

i just wanted to share my good news .i'm sure most of you have been married for a lot more than 5 years, so it might not be that big of a deal for you...but read on.. i wanted to hold out some hope for non-jws who are married to a jw (whether active or passive.

Funchback

Congratulations, Lisa!

Also, thanks for the wise words.

PS...Let me know if you ever decide to get a divorce!

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Subway Commercials

by blaid in

is any one else getting pissed of at subway lately?

with their latest tv ad that stereotypes artists, anbd their wanna be r&b radio commercial, im tempted to blow all of them up!

i cant stand stereotypes, and the artist one hits clsoe to home for me.

Funchback

Funchback here.

Forget about Subway.

I'm from Philly where REAL "~~subs~~" HOAGIES are made.

Philly...home of the best hoagies, cheesesteaks and soft pretzels.

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Odd, Rocky Mountain-type JWs in the News

by Funchback in

don't know if this was posted or not but after reading this story the moral is that we should always have a chaperone with us wherever we go!

http://www.trib.com/ap/wire_detail.php?wire_num=176272 and.

http://rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,drmn_15_2226589,00.html.

Funchback

heathen said:

"It sounds to me like a couple of sex crazed people trying to avoid suspicion at the local cong .and fabricating a story."

MY thoughts EXACTLY!

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Odd, Rocky Mountain-type JWs in the News

by Funchback in

don't know if this was posted or not but after reading this story the moral is that we should always have a chaperone with us wherever we go!

http://www.trib.com/ap/wire_detail.php?wire_num=176272 and.

http://rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,drmn_15_2226589,00.html.

Funchback

Don't know if this was posted or not but after reading this story the moral is that we should always have a chaperone with us wherever we go!

http://www.trib.com/AP/wire_detail.php?wire_num=176272 and

http://rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_2226589,00.html

Lost pair's story raises doubts

Sheriff questions accounts; friends slam search efforts

By Joe Garner, Rocky Mountain News
September 2, 2003

The Garfield County sheriff says he finds inconsistencies in the saga of a man and woman whose family and friends have ridiculed law enforcement authorities over a search that eventually located the pair in a cave near Glenwood Springs.

The inconsistencies include the physical condition of the couple, John Hadar and Sherry DeCrow, who claim they survived almost five days in the cave without food and water, Sheriff Lou Vallario said Monday. He also cited the speed with which the pair were found once their family and friends joined the search.

On Monday, DeCrow blamed the sheriff's office for delays in the rescue. Hadar could not be reached for comment.

Byron Brown, who knows DeCrow and Hadar from church, agreed with DeGrow.

The sheriff and his deputies "are morons. They are all retarded," Brown said Monday.

"The sheriff's department, from the beginning, did nothing to find them," said Brown, 26, of Glenwood Springs. "They were looking for clues for people who might have killed them. They never looked for them to make it possible for them to survive."

Vallario said his department was notified late on Aug. 26 that Hadar and DeCrow - who are divorced, about 50, and friends through the Jehovah's Witnesses church in Carbondale - were missing. Early the next day, a Wednesday, Vallario assembled a missing-persons team that began routine checks on such things as credit-card use, telephone records and airport departures.

Some family members told investigators the pair might have eloped, Vallario said, although family and friends grew increasingly distraught as days passed with no word from either of them. No one suggested early on that the pair might have gone caving.

But when the pair was located Friday morning, it set off a firestorm of criticism over the way the first-term sheriff organized the search.

"I would do the same things the same way the next time," Vallario said. "It was a successful rescue. I still don't understand what their motivation is for going after me."

DeCrow said Monday that she and Hadar are simply friends. She said they went to explore Hubbard's Cave, a popular destination for cavers in the White River National Forest about 20 miles southeast of Glenwood Springs, late on the afternoon of Aug. 24, a Sunday. Hadar wanted her to show him the entrance to the cave, she said.

The sheriff said, however, that the cave is a popular recreation spot along a four-wheel-drive road, well known to cavers. So, the sheriff said, Hadar shouldn't have needed help finding the entrance - another inconsistency.

Although they didn't have food or water for an extended hike into the cave, the magnificent rock formations enticed them deeper and deeper into the mountainside until both of their flashlights suddenly went out and they were unable to find their way back to the entrance, DeCrow said.

"It was a pretty creepy feeling," she said, "because we knew that no one knew where we were."

She said they planned to survive, but they also talked of death.

More than 48 hours after the pair entered the cave, late on Tuesday night, DeCrow's daughter, who had been out of town, reported her mother missing.

For the next two days, Vallario said, he organized a missing-persons investigation.

A pilot friend of the pair conducted an aerial search around Glenwood Springs Thursday and located a white Chevy Suburban near the cave entrance that turned out to be Hadar's.

The sheriff's department then blocked off the area as a possible crime scene, Vallario said. He did not want family and friends to happen upon the couple's bodies if they had been victims of foul play.

"We'd never considered they might be lost in the mountains because none of the family suggested they ever went into the mountains - just the opposite," the sheriff said.

When investigators searched the entrance to the cave Thursday, they did not find Hadar's keys and wallet on the trail, but family and friends quickly spotted them Friday, Vallario said.

The sheriff cited the recovery of the keys and wallet as another inconsistency in the case; Brown cited the discovery as another example of law-enforcement's incompetence.

Similarly, searchers who went into the cave Thursday calling out the couple's names got no response, but family and friends found them "within a few minutes" the next morning, the sheriff said.

"The biggest inconsistency, according to the EMTs and paramedics who checked them out, is that their appearance was inconsistent with being lost in the cave for five days," Vallario said.

"They've refused to talk to us, and they verbally abused us on the way down the trail," the sheriff said. "They broke the No. 1 rule: They didn't tell anyone where they were going, and then they blamed the sheriff's department for rescuing them."Brown agreed his friends should have left word they were going to explore the cave, but he also said authorities should have scoured the local roads for Hadar's vehicle.

Brown also accused law enforcement officers of "cursing at us and flipping us off," after deputies created a perimeter at the mouth of the cave.

"I was choked by one of the detectives when I was carrying John Hadar off the trail," Brown said.

The sheriff said he was not aware of Brown's claims.

DeCrow said Monday she has not decided whether to take legal action against the sheriff's department.

But DeCrow said she remains convinced that "we would have been out of the cave almost a day sooner if (law-enforcement authorities) had let (their friends) come in after us."

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Football predictions for "egg chasers" (NFL)

by crownboy in

well, the upcoming nfl season is about to start in two days, with my team the new york jets being involved in the opening game.

now i was a little discouraged when our starting qb chad pennington (the best in the nfl) went down earlier in the preseason with an injury that will keep him out for more than half the season, but fortunately for the jets, they're one of the few nfl teams with a backup qb that can be a quality starter, so i don't expect that we will have much of a drop off with vinny testaverde taking the reigns temporarily.

he'll surpass 40,000 career passing yards this year, and he also has a stronger arm than does pennington, so look for deep plays to the wide receivers.

Funchback

"Flyyyy, Eagles, flyyyy...on the road to VICtor-REEEEE..."

E---A---G---L---E---S EAGLES!!!

My first name is Brian and I just bought a white Brian Westbrook jersey and a black Brian Dawkins jersey and I am AMPED for the Monday night opener at our new digs 'The Linc'!

ashitaka... Eagles win Monday night 24-13.

As for the Jets vs 'skins game on Thursday: I hope the Jets kick they azzes because the 'skins "stole" all those Jets players during the Summer.