i've always wondered, what does that organization of stiff shirts teach and/or believe about hunting?
target shooting?
gun ownership?.
[Trying to fix up an accidental multiple posting.]
Another reason for the WTBTS sanctions against firearms ownership is their fear of bad publicity if they permitted a member to use a gun for himself/herself, but at the same time forbidding them to use a gun to protect their country by serving in the military.
i've always wondered, what does that organization of stiff shirts teach and/or believe about hunting?
target shooting?
gun ownership?.
[Trying to fix up an accidental multiple posting.]
Prior to the "new light" about the evils of gun ownership, I do recall that it was at least somewhat acceptable to own firearms for hunting purposes and that any animals shot were to be eaten. Likewise, fishing was accepted as long at the fish were eaten. Hunting and fishing for sport purposes only had been forbidden for a long time.
i've always wondered, what does that organization of stiff shirts teach and/or believe about hunting?
target shooting?
gun ownership?.
As I recall, sometime in the 1980s there was a WT article that came down very hard on ownership of firearms. At the time I read it it seemed to be presented as an outright prohibition, but I don't remember if it was yet another disfellowshipping offense.
Of course, the WTBTS itself does not heed its own advice and has no problem hiring very well-armed guards to protect its carloads of cash transported from assembly contribution boxes to the bank.
i encourage people not to either verbally or physically harass jws when they come knocking on the door.. saying this, i recognize that it is ever so tempting to try the following:.
1) answering the door wearing a t-shirt with a logo such as "satan rules", "member of the evil slave class", and "1914, 1918, 1925, 1975, what's next?".
2) answering the door wearing only underwear (or less).. 3) dropping a name of some governing body member and suggesting that you got to know him when he and you were in jail together, and then ask if they know if he's stopped some particular filthy habit.. 4) answering the door while brandishing a pitchfork.. 5) say that you're so glad they came and that it's good for people to have an open mind about their religion and to be willing to change; once you get them excited with this, show them a copy of the wtbts failed prophecy list (backed by quotes from their own literature) and ask if they are open minded as well.. 6) as most jws have never looked at a copy of _studies in the scriptures_, tell them that you've gotten many of your religious beliefs by pyramidology; then show them a copy of _sits_ and point to the wtbts copyright notice.. i have #5 and #6 ready for the next visit.
Hello dark clouds:
A good place to start for a list of WTBTS date setting errors, all of which are backed up by quotes from their own literature, is the following link from the freeminds web site:
there are 1370 registered users on this sight, lets say that 1000 of them are pretty serious players when it comes to trying to help jw's with doubt get away from the organization.. this is my ideal,lets say that 1000 users here form a group to help (plant the right seeds of doubt).
the way this could be done is by each person in the group paying a $25.00 fee (which would equal to $25,000.00) to place advertising on billboards located near assembly halls with 1-900 numbers for more information concerning the posted message.. then the money from the 900 numbers could be used to place more billboards near more assembly halls till there was enough out there to really cause a impact on the organization.. what do you think?
i know it is crazy, however it is a fun ideal>
Hello Big Jim, and thank you for your idea.
I have thought about similar tactics, and the one I like best is to use of the "sky billboard" services. For reasonable fee, one of these services will construct a large banner (say, five meters high and a hundred meters long) and tow it behind a small aircraft. The noisy piston engined propeller aircraft flies low and slow over the area of your choice (subject to local regulations), and makes as many passes as you care to pay for.
This works best if the assembly is not being held in a domed stadium. Yet even in that case, a few passes in the morning over the parking areas will get the job done.
One can also pay for multiple banners, flown on sequential flights, that taken together give longer messages. Just the anticipation of a another "apostate" message will give headaches to those who deserve such. If a flight can be made every half hour and keep to a schedule, soon everybody will be waiting for the next banner and will not be paying any attention to whatever "new light" is being flashed from the WTBTS speakers.
It's too bad that airborne leaflet dropping is restricted by anti-littering statues, or that would be another idea.
Think of it as a "Sign From Above".
i encourage people not to either verbally or physically harass jws when they come knocking on the door.. saying this, i recognize that it is ever so tempting to try the following:.
1) answering the door wearing a t-shirt with a logo such as "satan rules", "member of the evil slave class", and "1914, 1918, 1925, 1975, what's next?".
2) answering the door wearing only underwear (or less).. 3) dropping a name of some governing body member and suggesting that you got to know him when he and you were in jail together, and then ask if they know if he's stopped some particular filthy habit.. 4) answering the door while brandishing a pitchfork.. 5) say that you're so glad they came and that it's good for people to have an open mind about their religion and to be willing to change; once you get them excited with this, show them a copy of the wtbts failed prophecy list (backed by quotes from their own literature) and ask if they are open minded as well.. 6) as most jws have never looked at a copy of _studies in the scriptures_, tell them that you've gotten many of your religious beliefs by pyramidology; then show them a copy of _sits_ and point to the wtbts copyright notice.. i have #5 and #6 ready for the next visit.
I encourage people not to either verbally or physically harass JWs when they come knocking on the door.
Saying this, I recognize that it is ever so tempting to try the following:
1) Answering the door wearing a T-shirt with a logo such as "Satan Rules", "Member of the Evil Slave Class", and "1914, 1918, 1925, 1975, What's Next?"
2) Answering the door wearing only underwear (or less).
3) Dropping a name of some governing body member and suggesting that you got to know him when he and you were in jail together, and then ask if they know if he's stopped some particular filthy habit.
4) Answering the door while brandishing a pitchfork.
5) Say that you're so glad they came and that it's good for people to have an open mind about their religion and to be willing to change; once you get them excited with this, show them a copy of the WTBTS failed prophecy list (backed by quotes from their own literature) and ask if they are open minded as well.
6) As most JWs have never looked at a copy of _Studies in the Scriptures_, tell them that you've gotten many of your religious beliefs by pyramidology; then show them a copy of _SitS_ and point to the WTBTS copyright notice.
I have #5 and #6 ready for the next visit.
greetings to the readership:.
there have been reports over time that each kingdom hall keeps a "do not call" list of addresses.
these are addresses in the congregation's territory where, for one reason or another, the jws in the field service are advised not to make calls.
From what I've read about thte recent Canadian decision, I have to say I agree with the result. Civil authority is overstepping its bounds whenever it tries to limit the right of free association.
Of course, this has nothing to do with the GDNCL Project. The Project acts only as an assisting intermediary for the forwarding of do-not-call requests to the WTBTS.
Freedom of religion including the ability to go door to door (although I don't believe there is any support for this in the bible, Acts 20:20 notwithstanding) must be protected in a free society. And so what also must be protected is the equally important right for a householder to easily opt-out of uninvited religious calls. Let us hope that the WTBTS is fair minded enough to accept and support both of these rights with the same enthusiasm.
when a girl reaches the age of puberty or physical maturity, her.
body has developed in the matter of sex more than in the mind.. young folks like to be together, first in groups, later in twos.. if they have not been instructed by their parents in regard to the.
permitted, because the female is not in physical condition to breed.. the bull seems to understand this and keeps in his own place.
Quoting: "What a price for a girl, a virgin, to pay for a few minutes of satisfied sex emotions!"
Perhaps those of you who are plagued with roaming ova will enjoy this joke:
Father O'Brien was very strict in the administration of the St. Agnes School for Girls. He was understandably alarmed one day upon hearing rumors that some of his students were discussing the possibility of sexual relations before marriage. He knew that he had to act quickly to preserve the standards of modesty and abstention. So he had a very large sign placed near the entrance of the school one morning. Written on the sign in large capital letters:
"IS AN HOUR OF SIN WORTH A LIFETIME OF GUILT?"
The next morning he arrives and finds a message on the bottom of the sign, written in small feminine handwriting:
"How can I get my boyfriend to last a whole hour?"
there will always be good families that produce bad kids and.
bad families that produce good kids - call it genes or reincarnation.
nevertheless, it should be evident to all that the.
Hello metatron, and thank you for your comments.
You report: The "Young People Ask" book has TWO chapters on masturbation! Not one, TWO!
This is amazing. For comparison purposes, the official catechism of the Catholic Church deals with this subject in just a couple of paragraphs with one of the comments being that those who hear of this in confession are to have compassion and understanding for person involved.
Having not read the WTBTS book you've quoted, I can only assume that you are taking it out of context. To fill up two chapters, they must be *advocating* the practice and are providing instruction on technique, accessories, involvment with a partner, and keeping personal records. Why else would they need so much space?
If it is indeed the case that the WTBTS is discouraging the practice and takes two chapters to do so, I can only assume that the author of those chapters is perhaps a rare example of someone being driven into psychopathy by either not masturbating at all or by an addiction to excessive masturbation. Or perhaps the author has attempted masturbation and, having failed at it, is jealous of those who enjoy it.
when a girl reaches the age of puberty or physical maturity, her.
body has developed in the matter of sex more than in the mind.. young folks like to be together, first in groups, later in twos.. if they have not been instructed by their parents in regard to the.
permitted, because the female is not in physical condition to breed.. the bull seems to understand this and keeps in his own place.
Hello JanH, and thank you for that snippet from God's True Channel.
The excerpt: When a young, unmarried girl falls to the temptation, the price she pays is terrible: shame, sorrow, a ruined reputation, endless troubles, with the danger of being disfellowshipped from a congregation if the girl is a dedicated member.
Let's take these prices one by one.
1) shame
Shame, or guilt, is just about the most unproductive emotion one can have. It monopolizes thoughts and so prevents one from planning and taking action to improve the situation. It traps a person in the unchangeable past and so removes hope for a better future. Only controlling and authoritarian groups encourage shame. No surprise here considering the source.
2) sorrow
Sorrow, or grief, is healthy only when it allows the person to overcome unfortunate events. To be sorrowful for an extended period means that a person might need some help in resolving their feeling about the causative events. Only a sadist would wish long sorrow or any other kind of unnecessary suffering on another. No surprise here, either.
3) ruined reputation
Most often, those holding a less than perfect opinion about the woman do so because they have a neurotic need to feel superior. Also, it's probable that these people had similar pre-marital or extra-marital sexual encounters themselves, but just haven't been caught, thus making them hypocrites. The whole reputation business can be just a disguise for enforcing group control. Again, we know where this came from.
4) endless troubles
Uh, who doesn't have what appear to be endless troubles at some point in their lives? Perhaps the troubles wouldn't be so uncomfortable if there is a familial and social support system in place to assist the mother and her child. Only greedy people who condemn charity would object. Another WTBTS hallmark.
5) danger of being disfellowshipped
And so be deemed worthy of death. And in the short term, to be cut off from any hope of assistance. Even if the mother was one of the worst examples of humanity, the child still deserves to have a good start on life. Yet the perverted WTBTS shunning practice will value the so called "purity of the congregation" above the very real physical and psychological needs of the mother and child.
While I do not encourage out-of-wedlock births, I hold that every life is sacred and that every child is a gift form God regardless of the circumstances of its conception and birth. I cannot see how any Christian could do otherwise.
