I agree with Pope John Paul II's stance on capital punishment, that in should be used rarely, and only when all other methods of deterrence have failed or are unavailable.
The only method of capital punishment I support is "death by incarceration", i.e., life without parole. And the first ones up for the punishment are those who've helped murder hundreds of thousands in an unjustified preemptive war.
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Pro-life arguments
by Skimmer ina thoughtful series of twenty six pro-life arguments specifically against abortion can be found at: .
http://www.all.org/article.php?id=10229 .
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Pro-life arguments
by Skimmer ina thoughtful series of twenty six pro-life arguments specifically against abortion can be found at: .
http://www.all.org/article.php?id=10229 .
through (following down the links the left side of each page) .
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A thoughtful series of twenty six pro-life arguments specifically against abortion can be found at:
http://www.all.org/article.php?id=10229
through (following down the links the left side of each page)
http://www.all.org/article.php?id=10254
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One of the best written is #14 that answers the question(s) "What about the hard cases - rape, incest or the life of the mother? Shouldn't abortion be allowed under these circumstances?" See: http://www.all.org/article.php?id=10242
Some paragraphs form the above link:
# The "hard cases" represent perhaps only 1 percent of all abortions. Yet we hear about them all the time. To be equitable, there are no doubt "easy cases" which can be brought up against the pro-abortionist. What about abortion performed for sex selection, or under duress, or without full disclosure of fact, or without parental consent or notification? Or abortion for birth control? Or abortion in the last month of pregnancy? Or how about abortions performed on the basis of coin flips, tea leaves, horoscopes, etc.? As upsetting or outlandish as some of these scenarios sound, all are possible. All are legally permissible. And such "easy cases" are no doubt much more prevalent than the oft cited "hard cases."
# If a rape/incest exception were allowed: How would we differentiate between the rape victim and an abortion-minded liar? Making a woman "prove" she was raped, not to convict her attacker, but to get an abortion, would be disastrous. Surely some women desiring an abortion would feign rape (the plaintiff in Roe v. Wade, Norma McCorvey, recently admitted to lying about being raped). This would cause great damage to the true victims of rape who already risk character assassination by the judicial system.
# There are virtually no conditions that threaten the mother's life in which abortion is a medically recognized treatment. In some conditions (e.g., an ectopic pregnancy or a cancerous uterus) a treatment may be required which indirectly kills the preborn. But in such cases, the treatment does not legally or morally qualify as an abortion. When removing a cancerous uterus, the intent is to save the mother; every effort to save the child should still be made. Thus even if the child dies, the treatment is still fully justified. The death of the child was never INTENDED. In contrast, for an abortion the intent is always the same: to kill the preborn child.
# Quote from Dr. Alan Guttmacher, pro-abortionist and former head of Planned Parenthood, in 1967: "Today it is possible for almost any patient to be brought through pregnancy alive, unless she suffers from a fatal illness such as cancer or leukemia, and if so, abortion would be unlikely to prolong, much less save life." -
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Have you changed your mind about ABORTION?
by nicolaou ini'm not after a discussion on the rights or wrongs on abortion, what i'm asking is whether or not your views have evolved over time.. perhaps leaving the watchtower was enough to allow your true feelings on abortion to find expression.
maybe abortion is one of those subjects where you still find yourself in agreement with your old jw self.
did becoming a mother change your perspective in any way or solidify your views?.
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The time: One hundred and fifty years ago, a few years before the US Civil War
The place: Southern United States
The topic: Justification for slave owner "rights"
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Slave owner 1: "These slaves are my property, so no one should be able to tell me how to treat them."
Slave owner 2: "My slaves are totally dependent on me and so have no right to an independent life."
Slave owner 3: "Slaves don't have human rights because they're not really human and don't feel pain like we do."
Slave owner 4: "Slaves are not legally fully human as the constitution counts them as being only a fraction of a white person for congressional district allocation; slavery is okay because it's legal."
Slave owner 5: "I can't give up my slaves as I can't afford to run my plantation with fairly paid labor; I'd go bankrupt and I might starve."
Slave owner 6: "I let one or two slaves go free, so it's okay if I still have a bunch of them to do the work."
Hypocrite: "I'm really not pro-slavery, but it's okay if my friends have slaves as long as I don't have any myself." -
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Have you changed your mind about ABORTION?
by nicolaou ini'm not after a discussion on the rights or wrongs on abortion, what i'm asking is whether or not your views have evolved over time.. perhaps leaving the watchtower was enough to allow your true feelings on abortion to find expression.
maybe abortion is one of those subjects where you still find yourself in agreement with your old jw self.
did becoming a mother change your perspective in any way or solidify your views?.
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1. Over 95% of all abortions have nothing to do with rape or incest. They are done only because of "convenience".
2. Rape and incest are terrible crimes. To compound them with murder is even worse.
3. A pregnancy that MAY be hazardous to the mother is not comparable to an abortion that WILL kill the child.
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Have you changed your mind about ABORTION?
by nicolaou ini'm not after a discussion on the rights or wrongs on abortion, what i'm asking is whether or not your views have evolved over time.. perhaps leaving the watchtower was enough to allow your true feelings on abortion to find expression.
maybe abortion is one of those subjects where you still find yourself in agreement with your old jw self.
did becoming a mother change your perspective in any way or solidify your views?.
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I have not changed my mind about abortion; I have always been pro-life. And as much as I detest the WTBTS, it must be admitted that they got this one thing right.
I have also always been pro-responsibility and pro-honesty as well. I've always been upfront with both topics, particularly when potentially starting a relationship with a woman as I need to know her views on the topic. If a female isn't willing to provide support for a helpless unborn child and isn't committed to finishing something she willingly started, then why should I or any other decent man offer her any support or any commitment? -
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Have you changed your mind about ABORTION?
by nicolaou ini'm not after a discussion on the rights or wrongs on abortion, what i'm asking is whether or not your views have evolved over time.. perhaps leaving the watchtower was enough to allow your true feelings on abortion to find expression.
maybe abortion is one of those subjects where you still find yourself in agreement with your old jw self.
did becoming a mother change your perspective in any way or solidify your views?.
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In regards to the kidney transplant analogy, if the person called to do a donation was in the first place responsible for the transplant being needed, then of course there is an obligation. But otherwise, no.
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Many pro-choicers say that it's acceptable for a woman to get an abortion just because supporting an unborn child for nine months can be too inconvenient. Yet these same people often have no problems whatsoever in demanding that the taxpayers support a child from birth for the next two hundred and sixteen months (eighteen years). Some women want all the "choice" but none of the responsibility. -
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Funny Kingdom Hall Scandals
by lovelylil inin one hall i was in, we had sister self-righteous.
you know the type, always pointed out how spiritual she is and how much she does for jehovah.
anyway, one time she invited me and my two kids over to swim in her pool on a hot day and i told her i could come but that i had my nephew up from ct for a visit and asked if i could bring him.
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Sex in the KH library is certainly near the top. How about just covertly leaving a condom wrapper for a later discovery by some self righteous elder or MS? Or maybe a used condom for a more pronounced result? Bonus points if the item is discovered by the KH gossip.
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Bill Cosby, seems to be right.
by free2beme ini work for a telecommunications company and in so doing, i deal with a lot of fraud.
now, what i am about to say could come across as racist and i hope people read the whole thing to get what i am saying and know i am not racist (... to add though, i really am past caring what people think).
in the state of north carolina, you can run up your phone bill to $1000's and $1000's and by law you only have to pay basic local service to keep services on.
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Barack Obama, who is still in his first Senate term, is largely the invention of the Democratic Party. They got tired of Jesse Jackson and his ilk getting too much media attention and needed an African American who would better toe the party line.
I'll likely vote for Dennis Kucinich, even though he can't win. Every vote sends a message, and my message is that the major parties can go f*ck themselves. -
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Bill Cosby, seems to be right.
by free2beme ini work for a telecommunications company and in so doing, i deal with a lot of fraud.
now, what i am about to say could come across as racist and i hope people read the whole thing to get what i am saying and know i am not racist (... to add though, i really am past caring what people think).
in the state of north carolina, you can run up your phone bill to $1000's and $1000's and by law you only have to pay basic local service to keep services on.
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In some areas when residential landline telephone service is terminated due to nonpayment, the phone is left active, but only for outgoing calls to 911/emergency services.
The above information is from a woman acquaintance who has had this happen to her. She was getting too many collect calls from a jailbird boyfriend and so soon thereafter neither her nor her housemates could use the phone anymore (except 911). She is currently living with the baby daddy druggie of her third kid (all by different males); she has never worked, she didn't bother to finish high school, and she is totally dependent on handouts. She is perfectly healthy and will probably have several more bastards before her reproductive machinery gives out. Oh, and she's as white as I am.
Why should I or any other taxpayers continue to support her filthy habits and her crotchfruit? Isn't well past time that she should be forced into a little surgery to keep the problem from getting worse? -
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A funny response from cartalk.com
by Skimmer inon national public radio, there's a weekly hour-long program called "car talk with click and clack the tappet brothers".
it's been around for twenty years and is one of the most popular programs on npr.
it's website is http://cartalk.com (there's a podcast, too) and one of the features of the site (and program) is a puzzler where the audience is challenged with a (usually) automotive related conundrum.
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Well, I managed to get the correct Puzzler answer (re: LED traffic signals), but I'm stumped by the new Puzzler (hazardous tall ship cargo).