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  The DAY AFTER [Dateline]

  by biblexaminer in

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  what will happen the day after?.

  i have a recent personal experience from "field service" that may shed a little light on this subject.. first, i do believe that many of my "bros and sises" will see this.

  they are all dateline watchers, and just knowing their personalities, if they are able, they will watch.. will they talk about it amongst themselves?

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  Skimmer

  Wouldn't it be wonderful if this and some of the other real truth web sites were mentioned in the Dateline program or on their web site?

  To Simon: please consider measuring the access count to the board before and after and see how much of a change occurs, just in case the URL is referenced.

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  If Dateline is going to play on the angle of the WTBTS ducking its legal responsibility, I hope that they will pick up on the infamous secret oral instructions by the WTBTS to the elders on "what not to put on disfellowshipping forms." Maybe Dateline could also mention the Pay Attention book and how it is kept secret along with the unprinted legal evasion hints concerning plausible denial.

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  I'm not sure how much of an impact the Dateline program will have on the making of new converts in the field service, because the English speaking portion of the field service in the United States is pretty dead already. The big effect is going to be on current JWs who sneak a peek at the broadcast.

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  It is possible that the WTBTS might try to organize some kind of orchestrated grass roots response to NBC. That's okay; we can do that as well.
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  The DAY AFTER [Dateline]

  by biblexaminer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what will happen the day after?.

  i have a recent personal experience from "field service" that may shed a little light on this subject.. first, i do believe that many of my "bros and sises" will see this.

  they are all dateline watchers, and just knowing their personalities, if they are able, they will watch.. will they talk about it amongst themselves?

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  Skimmer

  Hello wasasister:

  I think you are right about a damage control article or two. Also, I suspect a few preemptive paragraphs in the upcoming Kingdom Ministries. I don't think there will be any attempts at slander, or at least none that can be traced to the elite for fear of further lawsuits.

  From the platforms, I expect that there will be further warnings against "apostate" literature and this will be expanded to include televised information. The sheep will be reminded that voluntary viewing or listening to opposer information is a disfellowshipping offense.

  The WTBTS may wait until after the airing of the program and measure the fallout to come up with more specific answers that will likely appear as letters to elders.
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  "Special" meeting in October?

  by Esmeralda in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  question.

  my mother told my husband that there is to be a 'special meeting' in october at the local sports arena (same place as dc's are held here) and that "only publishers are allowed to attend" that they will get "special cards" for admission from their local congregation and have to hand them in to get into the building.

  i have no idea if this has anything to do with the "annual meeting" they always have (isn't that generally in october?

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  Skimmer

  Hello belbab and thank you for your thought-provoking posting.

  You just might be right; this could be the second shoe dropping, the first being the disconnection between the governing body and the WTBTS directors back in October 2000.

  Has there been much written about the governing body in the past year of WTBTS literature? Perhaps there are some hints there. Alternatively, the lack of any such articles would also be a hint.

  Perhaps this is the next step in the end of the "FD&S equals anointed" doctrine. Maybe the doors to being of the anointed will once again swing open; although the passage for new members will depend upon years and years of unquestioning service.
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  "Special" meeting in October?

  by Esmeralda in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  question.

  my mother told my husband that there is to be a 'special meeting' in october at the local sports arena (same place as dc's are held here) and that "only publishers are allowed to attend" that they will get "special cards" for admission from their local congregation and have to hand them in to get into the building.

  i have no idea if this has anything to do with the "annual meeting" they always have (isn't that generally in october?

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  Skimmer

  Some other speculations:

  1. The WTBTS will, incredibly enough, start a real charity program in the United States with all the expenses paid at the local level. The motivation being that charitible organizations enjoy substantial legal protection against large financial lawsuit awards.

  2. The WTBTS will once again revise the elder appointment arrangement. The idea will be to show that the selection and retension of congregation elders are the responsibility (and liability) of the local members and not Brooklyn. This will help deflect legal claims against the headquarters.

  3. The WTBTS will announce the "greater responsibility" of the members in the US and will institute collection plate passing at some meetings to help finance operations in less developed countries.

  4. The WTBTS will organize fifty new organizations, one per US state, and these will serve to shield damage to the higher up levels and to simplify legal operations. It could force lawsuits to be decided at the state level instead of the federal and so further insulate and limit financial damage.

  5. The WTBTS will announce the creation of numerous subsidiary "governing bodies", perhaps one per branch office and made up of non-anointed. Their apparent independence from Brooklyn will be no more than a convenient legal fiction to further separate the WTBTS elite from the oncoming lawsuits.

  6. The WTBTS will distribute odd-tasting Kool-Aid to the attendees.
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  Greenlees & Chitty -- Some Sources

  by AlanF in

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  2. scandals

  posted on an email message board:.

  posted on an email message board:.

  posted recently to the h2o message board:.

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  Skimmer

  To Maximus:

  Not exactly on this topic, but I might have some information for you. Send an e-mail if you would and I will explain.
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  "Special" meeting in October?

  by Esmeralda in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  question.

  my mother told my husband that there is to be a 'special meeting' in october at the local sports arena (same place as dc's are held here) and that "only publishers are allowed to attend" that they will get "special cards" for admission from their local congregation and have to hand them in to get into the building.

  i have no idea if this has anything to do with the "annual meeting" they always have (isn't that generally in october?

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  Skimmer

  If it is the case that the meeting sites are exclusively in the United States, then I'll guess that the presentation will not be doctrinal in nature. Instead, it will be an explanation to the faithful of some upcoming legal/administrative change made public the day earlier at the annual meeting.

  Speculation: the announcement will be related to the operations of the new United States Branch Office and this will include a further legalistic separation between US operations and the global corporations. The idea will be to remove assets from the United States Branch while leaving the branch with as much liability as possible. We could even see a further subdivision of the asset/liability tree if sub-branches are set up in the United States.

  An alternative, although unlikely, is that the WTBTS may concede the point on paying sales tax on literature in the United States and re-institute an offcial price list with sufficient profit margins.

  And it possible that nothing of great significance will be said and the talks will be an attempt to rally the faithful for the expected upcoming "persecution" and "Satan's media attack" in the US. Of course, the "persecution" will be interpreted as yet another sign of the Big A coming Real Soon Now.
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  Intro's quote-o-rama

  by Introspection in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i guess i've been inspired by stephen's quote threads, so i'm going to start one myself.. not one particular author here, just whatever i can find:.

  q: why do you think that people are so protective of their egos?

  why is it so hard to let go of one's ego?.

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  Skimmer

  "Always do the right thing. A few people will be gratified; the rest will be amazed."

  -- Mark Twain
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  An honest question for women only

  by Skimmer in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  recently, i came across the web site.

  * http://www.classmates.com.

  which is a directory of high school graduates throughout north america with many millions of entries.

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  Skimmer

  A final update:

  No replies; I was sure I'd hear from at least one of the three. It may be that all three have changed e-mail addresses; I know one person who changes hers three or four times every year.

  Then again, if any of them did get the e-mail but chose not to reply, that's okay as all three are intelligent with good common sense so I trust that they are doing the right thing in not answering.
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  Suggestions, please re ``placing'' free COCs

  by Room 215 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a friend and i have come across a quantity of crisis of conscience in like-new condition, both english and italian editions.

  we're in a quandary as to how to make best use of them.

  we were thinking of donating them to the libraries or to perhaps cut a deal wth a local christian book store.

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  Skimmer

  I think that your idea of donating them to libraries is a good strategy. This will maximize their exposure to many JWs who could not openly order a copy for themselves.

  Of course, there are reports of some JWs *stealing* these books from libraries believing that they are engaging in proper theocratic warfare. I don't see how this can be avoided.
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  An honest question for women only

  by Skimmer in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  recently, i came across the web site.

  * http://www.classmates.com.

  which is a directory of high school graduates throughout north america with many millions of entries.

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  Skimmer

  Hello thinkers wife:

  Thank you very much for the encouragement.

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  Hello somebody:

  With respect to your incoming mail from the fellow who remembered you, I would suggest that you be honest yet tactful. Point out some common events or persons that both of you should be familiar with and see if his replies help with your memory.

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  Hello waiting:

  No, I'm not conning anyone; there's no purpose in doing that. Also, too many of us were conned for too long already as a result of our experience with the WTBTS.

  I'd like to be known as a nice guy; mostly I try to be honest. And except for my shining blue eyes, I am not cute at all. I could stand to lose 10 kilos, but I still have all my hair although there are signs of grey starting to show.

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  Well, still no replies; I'm fairly sure at least one would have come by now if any were coming at all.