Hooray for Norway! Shunning of minors is so obviously harmful psychologically and only makes them hate the religion. Not the "loving way to bring them back to Jehovah" that members claim it to be. Now if only there was a way to petition other governments to follow suit by removing tax exemptions for congregation properties and donations.
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Watchtower looses Norwegian Appeal
by Diogenesister inwatchtower has just lost its appeal in the norwegian courts over the withdrawal of the funding it receives from the government as an officially recognised religion.
the initial decision will now stand due to what the court termed 'exclusionary practices' which includes the witnesses barbaric practice of shunning minors, even by family members in their own homes.
the ministry of children and families have decided they are now no longer eligible for the state grant of 16 million norwegian kroner given to officially recognised religions.. the following is a statement has been issued, i have summarised if it isn't readable: .
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Virgin or whore complex that Witnesses have made my married life difficult!
by Witness 007 inso was a virgin when i got married but my wife studied later in life and had been married for 6 months and had two boyfriends in her past.
my strict witness mother hated my wife and thought she was not good enough for me.
she thought all worldly women were dirty whores who cannot keep their vaginas to themselves.
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DarleneGatus
And good for you, Witness 007!
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Virgin or whore complex that Witnesses have made my married life difficult!
by Witness 007 inso was a virgin when i got married but my wife studied later in life and had been married for 6 months and had two boyfriends in her past.
my strict witness mother hated my wife and thought she was not good enough for me.
she thought all worldly women were dirty whores who cannot keep their vaginas to themselves.
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DarleneGatus
Fun fact - the more you suppress healthy sexuality and the more isolated and paranoid people become, the more perversity develops. I remember sitting in a Kingdom Hall when the circuit overseer was lecturing against oral sex and the feeling of tension in the audience - if THAT kind of thing is THAT bad, then everyone wants it all the more! Most secular people are less tantalized by depravity because they don't fear the dirty devil in themselves and others and obsess over it.
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question for those who either aux pioneered pioneered
by enoughisenough inhow many of you would have spent the hours "pioneering" if it weren't for the pats on the back and being looked up to as someone special in the congregation?
i will admit that back in late 1970's i attempted to aux pioneer during a campaign because it was promoted and seemed the right thing to do,but i didn't get the hours and it was stressful trying to...and i didn't feel like a cheerful giver.
i never attempted it again.
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DarleneGatus
My boys were pretty high maintenance when they were young, and I didn't get much help with them, but I was guilted into auxiliary pioneering because as an elder's wife I should be seen at more field service meetings. Nobody wants young children in their car group (unless they are like Caleb and Sophia in the videos), so I would end up having to take the lead driving, doing my calls, taking notes for the territory we were working on, all the while minding kids and encouraging an adult publisher in poor mood and poor health. Finally, I reached the point where I couldn't put my kids or myself through it anymore. I took my kids to parks, the zoo, trampoline gyms, everywhere but service. The boys were happier but I felt more and more disliked in the congregation. How can you continue to support an organization that forces you to choose between the well-being of children and popularity?
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Follow to previous post,re:My niece
by Captain Schmideo2 ina few weeks back, i posted this:https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6246845349625856/never-thought-would-see-this-my-family-circle.
so, in latest developments:there was a court hearing, in which a continuance was granted for two weeks, as my bil has pleaded not guilty.
which is, in my opinion, very bad legal advice from his lawyer.
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DarleneGatus
Thanks for sharing Captain and Sea Breeze. Such a low standard for behavior within the family! No wonder two-thirds of the young people end up leaving! There need to be more support groups to help sufferers get over this trauma... Thoughts and prayers for healing and wellness.
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Senior JW member in Australia charged with sex crimes and torture
by Nathan Natas insee: https://7news.com.au/news/crime/senior-jehovahs-witnesses-member-charged-with-rape-torture-and-assault-of-teenage-boys-c-8044666.
"senior jehovah’s witnesses member charged with rape, torture and assault of teenage boys...".
the 61 year-old man "faces 21 counts of rape, 17 counts of sexual assault, 13 counts of procuring sexual acts by false pretence and one count each of incest, torture and common assault.".
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DarleneGatus
If the worst sin a person can commit is NOT to believe, then a person who commits even the vilest of sins remains in a blessed state due to continuing to believe... I am so disgusted.
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Why are so many Jehovah’s Witnesses Angry and Rude?
by Vanderhoven7 inwhy do you think many jws are hostile and rude?
or is that just my imagination?.
mark jones writes: the vast majority of jehovah’s witnesses are nice people.
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DarleneGatus
A JW man once tried to warn his family into submission by telling them that if he ever left the JW faith, he would become a terrible person.
Apparently all that peace and love training doesn't change who a person really is should the mask ever come off.
And the mask does tend to come off in places like forums where all are encouraged to speak freely and there seem to be no consequences for angry, rude behavior.
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Is doomsday coming as the Bible predicts or will nothing happen eventually?
by Fisherman inthe bible predicts that at some point, the god of the bible will take action.
this is very convincing when reading bible prophecy and history to back up prophecy as represented in the bible.
—exactly when god acts is another subject..
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DarleneGatus
History goes in cycles and all civilizations eventually collapse or break up. Like the Mayans. So if I predict an end to civilization, am I a prophet?
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Jehovah's Witnesses and Apostates
by tfjw injehovah's witnesses basically define the term "apostate" as someone who was once a member of the "organization" (a jehovah's witness) but no longer follows the teachings, rules, regulations and practices.
the society gives their official definition in the following manner: "apostasy is abandoning or deserting the worship and service of god, actually a rebellion against jehovah god.
some apostates profess to know and serve god but reject teachings or requirements set out in his word.
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DarleneGatus
TFJW, thank you for that! If the light were truly getting brighter, then it would not flip-flop back and forth. For sure!
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Would you still be angry with Lloyd Evans ?
by BettyHumpter inif instead of thailand, he had gone to a place where its legal and (supposedly) has some sort of oversight to prevent exploitation?
like nevada in the u.s or amsterdam in europe?
would the being unfaithful part still be a deal breaker as far as supporting his channel?
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DarleneGatus
Betty, I think you make some good points. I lived in China for 7 years as a JW missionary, and I've known a few people from Thailand, and although prostitution is not legal in those countries, and is frowned upon, it is widely available and not necessarily more immoral than prostitution in Amsterdam or other places where sex work has been legalized. Having said that, a truly spiritual person, in any religion, would not have sex without love. So if the rumors about Lloyd are true, then you could conclude that he is not a spiritual person and maybe has emotional problems or maybe is even a sex addict. However, that doesn't negate everything he has said and done on his channel. My question is simply, if you wouldn't blindly follow the GB, why would you then blindly follow Lloyd?