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  What are Americans taught about U.S and what do you really believe?

  by sleepy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  just wondering what exactly americans (u.s.a) are taught about their country in school .do you really salute a flag, do you swear allegiance to the country.

  are you taught that you fought for freedom, and that america is the land of the free, etc etc?

  do you actually believe what you are taught?

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  sleepy

  YOU ARE ENGLISH, RIGHT? No I'm Welsh.
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  What are Americans taught about U.S and what do you really believe?

  by sleepy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  just wondering what exactly americans (u.s.a) are taught about their country in school .do you really salute a flag, do you swear allegiance to the country.

  are you taught that you fought for freedom, and that america is the land of the free, etc etc?

  do you actually believe what you are taught?

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  sleepy

  Love to know why the USA is so nationalistic compared to other western countries though.And yes I am listening to you.I dont think everyone thinks alike, but large groups of people can have common opinions.And you seam to give the impression that because you dont think in a strongly nationalistic way others dont.Well they do, and it can have bad effects.Buy the waythe Watchtower seamed to give the impression that flag saluting and swearing aligence was pretty much a mandetery standard across the US. I guess I dont like strong nationlism, from any nation including my own! And like it or not that impression does come across strongly about the US. If this post tires you by the way dont answer. Just been to France, now they drive like right idiot..............oh dear I cant stop.
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  What are Americans taught about U.S and what do you really believe?

  by sleepy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  just wondering what exactly americans (u.s.a) are taught about their country in school .do you really salute a flag, do you swear allegiance to the country.

  are you taught that you fought for freedom, and that america is the land of the free, etc etc?

  do you actually believe what you are taught?

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  sleepy

  Like I said if theres not a law it not enforced.
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  What are Americans taught about U.S and what do you really believe?

  by sleepy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  just wondering what exactly americans (u.s.a) are taught about their country in school .do you really salute a flag, do you swear allegiance to the country.

  are you taught that you fought for freedom, and that america is the land of the free, etc etc?

  do you actually believe what you are taught?

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  sleepy

  "I just told you my experience going to school on a military base and there wasn't any enforced indoctrinisation" If being made to salute the flag is the law , and to swear aligence to the country is the law then there is enforced indoctrinisation.Simple as that.If not theres not. Dont want to harp on about it .Other countries have made mistakes but we are clearly taught this in school. "I dont remember the Irish immigrating to England....I wonder why??" There are lots of Irish in Britian.
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  What are Americans taught about U.S and what do you really believe?

  by sleepy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  just wondering what exactly americans (u.s.a) are taught about their country in school .do you really salute a flag, do you swear allegiance to the country.

  are you taught that you fought for freedom, and that america is the land of the free, etc etc?

  do you actually believe what you are taught?

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  sleepy

  By the way i have nothing against America or Americans.
  There is a lot about america I like.
  What I am against is government enforced indoctrinisation of people to condition them to think they are the best, which is what it seams like is happening in the US more than any other western land.
  
  Remember this debate is in good humour I love you all,wink wink.
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  What are Americans taught about U.S and what do you really believe?

  by sleepy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  just wondering what exactly americans (u.s.a) are taught about their country in school .do you really salute a flag, do you swear allegiance to the country.

  are you taught that you fought for freedom, and that america is the land of the free, etc etc?

  do you actually believe what you are taught?

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  sleepy

  Here?s my slant on this. I see Jehovah?s witnesses like this, 1.Indoctrineate their children newcomers swear allegiance to an organisation. 2.They proclaim they are the greatest people on earth. The freest the most favoured of God, the richest (spiritually) and that people that haven?t got what they seen as lower. 3.If people question this, they are disloyal, apostate. I see America like this. 1.Incotriate their children, swear allegiance if they move there. 2.Proclaim they are greatest people on earth. The freest (even the most favoured of god and yes I?ve heard presidents bush say this) the richest. This in a subtle way will cause others to be seen as lower. 3.if they question this they are unpatriotic. Other western nations do not teach themselves these things to such a degree. Last time was Germany and we know what happened there. Now when you build a false belief system up this is dangerous us, and can cause you to act in an unjustified manor. It may be the case that some people can see through exaggerations or distortion, but many just do not take the time to think about it. They can be caught up in a belief system that is false and will act accordingly. This may cause them to support unjustified actions against other nations. This is the danger, in indoctrinating people that a certain country is best, you will give people a false self-belief, this can lead to endangerment of other peoples liberties.
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  What are Americans taught about U.S and what do you really believe?

  by sleepy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  just wondering what exactly americans (u.s.a) are taught about their country in school .do you really salute a flag, do you swear allegiance to the country.

  are you taught that you fought for freedom, and that america is the land of the free, etc etc?

  do you actually believe what you are taught?

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  sleepy

  By the way the British were never slaves to royalty.Neither were ameican settlers slaves to the British.Although American settlers did have their own slaves...
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  What are Americans taught about U.S and what do you really believe?

  by sleepy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  just wondering what exactly americans (u.s.a) are taught about their country in school .do you really salute a flag, do you swear allegiance to the country.

  are you taught that you fought for freedom, and that america is the land of the free, etc etc?

  do you actually believe what you are taught?

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  sleepy

  If you really think these are cultures than you really havent had much experience of the rest of the world.
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  How Many Here Are "Technically" Still JWs???... Who's Not??

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  what i mean is according to the society, there are a number of persons that are "technically" "inactive" yet are viewed as jws still.

  i'm sure that i'm viewed as a witness still because i am not df'd or disassociated.....what about you??

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  sleepy

  I'm still technically a JW.
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  What are Americans taught about U.S and what do you really believe?

  by sleepy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  just wondering what exactly americans (u.s.a) are taught about their country in school .do you really salute a flag, do you swear allegiance to the country.

  are you taught that you fought for freedom, and that america is the land of the free, etc etc?

  do you actually believe what you are taught?

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  sleepy

  Why is every thing I post bunching up into one paragraph????