Appeal to them emotionally. Most people find themselves disgusted at the thought of child sex abuse. Give them just one example from, say, the Australian Royal Commission about what BCB went through (nothing graphic, I remember her father hit her outright and an Elder just laughed it off, aside from her father's repeated sexual abuse).
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WT Child/Sexual Abuse Cases and etc
by jdash ini had this argument with my grandmother and uncles about scandals that the jw's covered up and whatnot, and they won't budge.
i brought up the australian royal commission and of course they laughed.
they then said that the governing body has never lost a sexual abuse case but the "person" who did the crime got charged.
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Door-to-door preaching as surveillance
by john.prestor ini wanted to share some thoughts about jehovah's witnesses and their door-to-door preaching.
door-to-door preaching is supposedly about gathering converts, but in fact, as we frequently discuss, doesn't actually bring that many "sheep-like ones" in.
i want to suggest that a second meaning (what we call the latent meaning in academia) is facilitating surveillance of the congregants who attend some congregation.
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john.prestor
I want to clarify my original post: I am not claiming door-to-door preaching intentionally was created by Charles Taze Russell (when it began all those years ago, yes Morph, I'm aware of how door-to-door preaching started) for the purpose or intention of surveillance. I am saying that door-to-door preaching facilitates surveillance, i.e., makes it easier to accomplish, as in examples stillin provides.
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Door-to-door preaching as surveillance
by john.prestor ini wanted to share some thoughts about jehovah's witnesses and their door-to-door preaching.
door-to-door preaching is supposedly about gathering converts, but in fact, as we frequently discuss, doesn't actually bring that many "sheep-like ones" in.
i want to suggest that a second meaning (what we call the latent meaning in academia) is facilitating surveillance of the congregants who attend some congregation.
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john.prestor
I figured you'd say something like that Morph, I can just discard that out of hand. LV101, I didn't know that additional detail and that fits with my claims. Thanks!
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Door-to-door preaching as surveillance
by john.prestor ini wanted to share some thoughts about jehovah's witnesses and their door-to-door preaching.
door-to-door preaching is supposedly about gathering converts, but in fact, as we frequently discuss, doesn't actually bring that many "sheep-like ones" in.
i want to suggest that a second meaning (what we call the latent meaning in academia) is facilitating surveillance of the congregants who attend some congregation.
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I wanted to share some thoughts about Jehovah's Witnesses and their door-to-door preaching.
Door-to-door preaching is supposedly about gathering converts, but in fact, as we frequently discuss, doesn't actually bring that many "sheep-like ones" in. I want to suggest that a second meaning (what we call the latent meaning in academia) is facilitating surveillance of the congregants who attend some congregation. Let me explain.
-Congregations go door-to-door within a specific geographic area known as their "territory." Most congregants for practical reasons and the Governing Body's instructions (as in a recent convention video) live within the territory of the congregation they attend.
-Each congregation also preaches across its entire territory ideally every 6-12 months, and most succeed at this from what I can gather. This means that congregants will drive or walk by the residences of other congregants in their territory at least once or twice per year.
-Because the Governing Body makes displaying certain objects a disfellowshipping offense, congregants would thus gather evidence for a Judicial Committee unintentionally by passing by residences with, say, Halloween decorations, say, or where many cars were parked in their driveway on Thanksgiving. On this site I've seen accounts of Elders being called on someone because they spoke briefly to a female congregant who stopped by to ask a question, for instance.
-In other words: door-to-door preaching functions as a form of surveillance, and facilitates the discipline of congregants, ensuring their compliance and complicity.
Thoughts?
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Requirements for the platform!
by asp59 ini wrote this letter to organization some years ago.
they never responded.
what was the arrangement in the old jerusalem?.
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john.prestor
You didn't honestly expect them to answer that many questions, did you? Most of them don't make very much sense anyway...
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Stuart imprisoned,tried and restricted.
by amicabl infor the last month or so i have been watching all of stuart’s xjdub videos on youtube.. thanks to local congo’s of jws he has now been arrested and apparently mistreated and had actually quite weird restrictions placed on him to keep him away from carts, khs etc., by a court in vancouver.. he was out it would seem the next day carrying on his “ministry”.
and successfully too.. i know his activities could be considered a little extreme at times, but i have felt encouraged by him and i wondered if anyone has any information on the whole situation..
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john.prestor
Forgive the dark humor, but that proves conclusively that he isn't a pedophile... They'd let him run free.
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Broadcasting august, clown Lett about painting the K-hall
by Gorbatchov indid you see the performance of stephen lett on august broadcasting?.
the illustration of painting the kingdom hall?.
used for explaining that you have to listen to elders even when they are totaly wrong?.
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He claimed that even campaigning to decide the painting of a Kingdom Hall would 'make Satan very happy' and Jehovah 'sad.' Bizarre. -
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Resolution of the 2018 JW Protest, London
by jwleaks inthe full resolution and press release can be viewed and download via the following link:.
https://saysorry.org/2018/08/18/jw-protest-london/.
august 18, 2018. on the weekend of the 11th and 12th of august over 100 people from 13 countries, including seven australians, gathered on the grounds of excel london and held a peaceful and colourful protest to coincide with the jehovah’s witnesses ‘be courageous’!
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john.prestor
Morpheus, we all know what you think of protests. You're really unpleasant, you know that?
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London Protest 2018
by josephus inwell today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.
we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..
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john.prestor
This thread has gotten out of hand. Everybody needs to calm down and extend each other some common courtesy.
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London Protest 2018
by josephus inwell today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.
we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..
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john.prestor
I was never a Jehovah's Witness, but I want to chime in.
There's no need for this infighting, it accomplishes nothing and only breaks down the solidarity ex-Witnesses enjoy here, endangering the community this site offers exiting and doubting Witnesses.
On the one hand, I find it hard to believe that this protest will backfire by strengthening the faith of Jehovah's Witnesses. It will most likely have a negligible effect on most, who don't need a protest to feel persecuted: the convention program features several videos which highlight such 'persecution in Russia and Malawi, for instance.
On the other hand, I understand posters' concerns that the protesters themselves may still be allowing their old faith to influence them and that these efforts keep them from healing. This is something the protesters certainly should consider, but a single protest, in and of itself, proves nothing. Everyone is different.