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  Crazy WT stories

  by scruffmcbuff in

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  dennis was offered £5 by cool kids smoking pot and fornicating.

  he turned it down and went to read the wt as he turned the page.

  what did he see?a £5 note.

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  john.prestor

  That's a creepy thing to say, isn't it? He's threatening the guy!

  He said: One day in the new system, I'm gonna live in this big house

  Translation: Soon God will kill you at Armageddon and Ill take your empty home.
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  What Does Secular History Tell Us About the Twelve Apostles? - From National Geographic.

  by fulltimestudent in

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  the national geographic web-site publishes this story:.

  these 12 men shaped christianity—but were they real?.

  link: : https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/03/160306-bible-apostle-jesus-christian-religion-ngbooktalk/?cmpid=org=ngp::mc=social::src=facebook::cmp=editorial::add=fb20181222culture-resurfapostlesbooktalk::rid=&sf204668865=1.

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  Perry: no, you can't. Those are all based on whether or not you accept the gospels and some other New Testament texts as true... which I don't. I've been around and around in circles with apologists before on this site and you've already taken the thread far off track, so, peace out.
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  Crazy WT stories

  by scruffmcbuff in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  dennis was offered £5 by cool kids smoking pot and fornicating.

  he turned it down and went to read the wt as he turned the page.

  what did he see?a £5 note.

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  john.prestor

  Gorbatchov, speaking snakes in Africa? You gotta elaborate man!
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  What Does Secular History Tell Us About the Twelve Apostles? - From National Geographic.

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the national geographic web-site publishes this story:.

  these 12 men shaped christianity—but were they real?.

  link: : https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/03/160306-bible-apostle-jesus-christian-religion-ngbooktalk/?cmpid=org=ngp::mc=social::src=facebook::cmp=editorial::add=fb20181222culture-resurfapostlesbooktalk::rid=&sf204668865=1.

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  john.prestor

  I haven't watched the video but I've read through and heard a ton of these apologetic arguments during my time as a fundamentalist Baptist. They're not convincing, there's no tomb attested to before the 4th century when Constantine's crazy mother went to Jerusalem and found everything from Jesus' cross to John the Baptist's sandals (kidding about the last one).

  Did early apostles claim Jesus was resurrected? They did. Why did they claim he was resurrected? Because by reading into Old Testament scriptures through an allegorical lens they reached that conclusion, read the first couple chapters of Hebrews for example. There is very little evidence of a historical Jesus (Josephus was tampered with probably by the church father Eusebius in the 4th century, I can go into more detail) or any historical 12 (a late legend given away by numerous lines of evidencs I can also go into, the twelve play next to no role in the earliest gospel Mark or any other, most are just names on a page, and there's enough of their bones floating around to build a Brontosaurus).

  I've read on this stuff for years, and trust me: I wanted to believe it. It's not believable.
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  Crazy WT stories

  by scruffmcbuff in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  dennis was offered £5 by cool kids smoking pot and fornicating.

  he turned it down and went to read the wt as he turned the page.

  what did he see?a £5 note.

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  john.prestor

  9Yeah that is absurd, he broke into her house and stole a Bible? You can get one got a buck at Dollar Tree.

  Nothing wicked about you. We call that intelligence my friend :P
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  Crazy WT stories

  by scruffmcbuff in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  dennis was offered £5 by cool kids smoking pot and fornicating.

  he turned it down and went to read the wt as he turned the page.

  what did he see?a £5 note.

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  john.prestor

  I heard one at the first assembly I attended that some girl's classmates waited until the teacher stepped out and pulled out a Ouija board and tried to get the girl (Sheila maybe?) to play with it, but she didn't and she was glad because later they appeared 'demonized.'

  Oh and then a CO said a lesbian 'stalked' a Sister in their territory.

  Yep, totally believable.
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  A recent antiwitnessing experience

  by john.prestor in

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  i shared one of these before in which my approach left something to be desired, and i got some flack for that, and rightly so.

  so if this story doesn't go over well i won't share another... but given how it ended, i just had to share.... a few days ago i took a trip to a nearby city by bus.

  in the about 20-30 minute window between my connecting buses i walked over to a mcdonald's and got a cup of coffee, and when i came back to the little bus station i saw a literature cart sitting unmanned near the doors.

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  john.prestor

  Hey, that's how most of the cart witnessing Witnesses I've seen look, they're just enjoying their morning, sipping a cup of coffee, chatting with each other. You gotta earn that privilege remember, haha. he rest of them have to go door-to-door. They make the most of it!

  You'll have another chance, and you're ready for next time
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  What Does Secular History Tell Us About the Twelve Apostles? - From National Geographic.

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the national geographic web-site publishes this story:.

  these 12 men shaped christianity—but were they real?.

  link: : https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/03/160306-bible-apostle-jesus-christian-religion-ngbooktalk/?cmpid=org=ngp::mc=social::src=facebook::cmp=editorial::add=fb20181222culture-resurfapostlesbooktalk::rid=&sf204668865=1.

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  john.prestor

  I'll bite, what's the argument? I don't accept that there was a resurrection to be clear, just know that going in.
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  My JW-Related Musical Experiences

  by Roger Kirkpatrick in

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  looking back over my life, the only thing that i can say i truly enjoyed as a jw was meeting and becoming friends with a number of jws who were fine musicians and had experienced various measures of success in what used to be called the "music business.

  tommy reynolds, from the vocal group hamilton, joe frank & reynolds ("don't pull your love out on me, baby" and "baby, baby, fallin' in love, i'm fallin' in love again") recruited me to play drums in his dallas circuit assembly orchestra in the 1970s.

  in 1977, i became friends with legendary jazz composer/arranger/band leader benny golson, whose life story appeared in the oct. 8, 1980 awake, and who appeared opposite tom hanks in steven spielberg's "the terminal.

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  john.prestor

  Hey, glad you're getting a lot of different opinions to go on here Roger, including mine and others. Best of luck with your book.
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  What Does Secular History Tell Us About the Twelve Apostles? - From National Geographic.

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the national geographic web-site publishes this story:.

  these 12 men shaped christianity—but were they real?.

  link: : https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/03/160306-bible-apostle-jesus-christian-religion-ngbooktalk/?cmpid=org=ngp::mc=social::src=facebook::cmp=editorial::add=fb20181222culture-resurfapostlesbooktalk::rid=&sf204668865=1.

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  john.prestor

  Exactly, and early Christians were big on numerology too, just to follow up on that.