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  Introduction

  by Cerise in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello i am relatively new, reading a lot of experiences here for a while.

  i’m born in and baptized but i moved away from small town to a new congregation in big city so i have a good opportunity to fade now.

  all my good friends are worldly and my boyfriend.

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  john.prestor

  You'll give them all heart attacks right there, careful now, hahaha.
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  Introduction

  by Cerise in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello i am relatively new, reading a lot of experiences here for a while.

  i’m born in and baptized but i moved away from small town to a new congregation in big city so i have a good opportunity to fade now.

  all my good friends are worldly and my boyfriend.

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  john.prestor

  The Elders find out things about people either because they just get lucky and happen to see you quote-unquote sinning, because somebody else gets lucky and tells them, or because they contact you in the hopes that you'll give them something they can use: they might just happen to stop by your house and ask to come inside, or call you on the phone and ask questions that set you up to condemn yourself. I don't mean you specifically, that's just tactics Elders employ. Are you familiar with the Elders handbook Shepherd the Flock of God? Someone can hook you up with a PDF copy I'm sure, that tells you more about how they gather evidence and what evidence counts.
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  OK, I know this forum isn't exactly friends with JWSurvey, BUT...

  by Vidiot in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  ...this, imo, is just too good to pass up:.

  https://jwsurvey.org/news/watch-tower-sues-facebook-mark-zuckerberg-for-contempt-of-court-demands-daily-fine.

  this bit especially made me laugh:.

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  john.prestor

  Jehovah has 'apparently' drawn? Wow, somebody chickened out.
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  IMPORTANT Message for Child Sex Abuse Victims in California...

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  please watch.

  we need your help.. https://youtu.be/xmcekwjtbi8.

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  john.prestor

  I thought Jehovah's Witnesses had no 'clergy class.' Don't they say that on their website, which contains nothing but the truth?
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  Society Ditches Older Publications

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it has been reported that many of the older publications are being dumped.

  the watchtower bible and truck society have a long list of books, pamphlets and brochures that are no longer available either in print or in their data base on their web sight.

  of course the reason is that this books have a lot of old information that is incorrect, false prophecies, flip flops and a lot of "new light" that became old light.

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  john.prestor

  They send out Letters to the Body of Elders now and then with what to get rid of, nothing new, if you search you should find some threads about that over the last 5 or 10 years, it might go back longer too.
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  Shaking hands when reinstated

  by Tobyjones262 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  anyone remember when someone was reinstated after the announcement they congregation would shake hands and hug?

  then they announced a new rule that this was inappropriate to clap or hug, shake hands, that the newly reinstated was only doing what they should bla bla bla.

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  john.prestor

  Their dignified thing cracks me up, always gotta be dignified, meaning stodgy, stiff, and self-conscious. God forbid we get excited someone (in their minds) might get to survive Armageddon again
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  This religion is way too restrictive

  by Walrus in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i need to vent about some stuff that this religion does to just about anyone at this point.

  so i was raised in this religion and when i was 12 or 13 i told my mom (and step dad which has made my decision much firmer) that i didn’t want to be a witness because it’s too restrictive.

  my mom proceeded to cry and guilt trip her way into ending this conversation.

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  john.prestor

  You got a fire inside you kid and it's already raging, I respect that. Do what you got to do to get out, you already know this ain't your thing. You like rap music and Hip-Hop? Listen to rap music and Hip-Hop. You want to play organized Sports? Play organized Sports. These people want to drag you down into misery, they might not know that's what they're doing but that is what they're doing because a lot of JW services pretty much involve bitching and moaning about the world (forgive my terminology but since you broke the fuck barrier I'm just going to go with that, I like it anyway), and if you like the world you don't want to sit around bitching and moaning about it now do you? You're young, you got your life ahead of you. Go out and conquer. We got your back, you post here anytime.
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  7 Jehovah’s Witnesses Brutally Tortured in Russia

  by Drearyweather in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://jw-russia.org/en/news/19021923-622.html.

  at least seven of jehovah’s witnesses were subjected to torture—electric shocks, suffocation, and cruel beatings—on the first floor of the russian investigative committee’s building at ul.

  ostrovskogo, d. 47, in surgut.

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  john.prestor

  Jesus Christ, what the fuck is wrong with some of the posters in this thread? I get it, Jehovah's Witnesses hurt a lot of us, they hurt us bad (not me specifically, but I'm part of the community so I want to speak collectively). But that doesn't excuse what the Russian police did to these people. Seems like you want to get off on their suffering because some people an entire world away made you suffer too.
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  7 Jehovah’s Witnesses Brutally Tortured in Russia

  by Drearyweather in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://jw-russia.org/en/news/19021923-622.html.

  at least seven of jehovah’s witnesses were subjected to torture—electric shocks, suffocation, and cruel beatings—on the first floor of the russian investigative committee’s building at ul.

  ostrovskogo, d. 47, in surgut.

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  john.prestor

  How can we criticize Jehovah's Witnesses for cruelly shunning members if we turn a blind eye or even quietly endorse this kind of cruelty? This isn't right. These 7 people don't cover up child molestation, they don't create policy on blood transfusions or disfellowshipping, they're not even Elders or the Russian police wouldn't ask for the Elders' last names. We can't accept torture, period. We can't let governments bring torture back after they stopped using it against us as common practice barely 300 years ago at the final curtain call of the Middle Ages, where police or their lackies routinely broke people on the rack, whipped them bloody, cut off fingers or toes, and so much more to 'gather evidence.' The resurgence of torture aroud the world (I'm thinking of the United States 'enhanced interogations' i.e. mock drownings and sleep deprivation and terrorizing people with attack dogs, but many other governments use torture today) should concern every last one of us.
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  Research Opportunity

  by researchstudentsophie in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my name is sophie, and i am currently in the class ap research.

  the aim of ap research is to have students enter into an academic conversation that exists about a specific topic or issue.

  for my research project, i have chosen to evaluate the social stress levels, or sense of belonging, within members of the jehovah’s witnesses community, due to my personal background with the religion.. the following attachment will help me collect data for my research.

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  john.prestor

  Hey Sophie, good luck on your project. You do know that most people who post on this site don't identify as Jehovah's Witnesses or participate in that religious community, right?