Ding, that isn't true. If they actually said that it would be everywhere.
john.prestor
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shunning of those who have "left da troof"
by resolute Bandicoot inhi friends, .
can somebody please help me locate a recent thread that dealt with shunning of family members and the policy double standard, e.g.
jw.borg explanation that the family relationship is unchanged and the recent daily text that suggested that we should shun them.. tried searching but could not find it.. thanks rb.
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shunning of those who have "left da troof"
by resolute Bandicoot inhi friends, .
can somebody please help me locate a recent thread that dealt with shunning of family members and the policy double standard, e.g.
jw.borg explanation that the family relationship is unchanged and the recent daily text that suggested that we should shun them.. tried searching but could not find it.. thanks rb.
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john.prestor
Amiable atheist, I remember seeing that clip. That man is a liar and knows he's lying, he should be ashamed that he got up in front of the court and tried to deceive them, what a bold witness he gave. What difference does it make if someone can 'come into the congregation and sit wherever they like,' how does that relate to shunning.
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Jesse Smollett
by Bill Covert inin the news northwestern memorial hospital [where jesse smollett was taken after attack], evidently fired 6 nurses for accessing jesse's file.
i did a topic [i was unable to locate in order to bump up] on the sept.1 1987 wt.
article "a time to speak when?
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john.prestor
What are you talking about? Give us a little more background.
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Russia Confiscates $30.4 Million Property From Jehovah's Witnesses
by Room 215 inhttps://www.worldreligionnews.com/religion-news/russia-confiscates-30-4-million-property-jehovahs-witnesses.
it would appear that with this most recent confiscation the total taken from the jws by moscow amounts to more that $75 million.
(ouch!
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john.prestor
Yeah, I'm with Corney on this one, just because Jehovah's Witnesses piss off the government doesn't mean they get to steal their stuff. -
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“Millions now living will never die”
by HappyBlessedFree inso i’m just reading the part in ray franz book “crisis of conscience” about the 1925 prediction of “millions now living will never die”.. ofcourse all witnesses are very familiar with this campaign.
yet none of us ever had an issue with it, including myself.
since the booklet was published in 1920, we are one year away from 100 years from that time.
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john.prestor
Ding, sounds like it's just an excuse for them, an easy way to wish something away, to pretend it out of existence.
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Giving fake address to elder
by Addison0998 inso i got married a few weeks ago, living a great life now with my husband, he was definitely the perfect guy for me :) but anyways, we are going to work on slowly fading, going to meetings once a week or every two weeks, and then in a few months move to a hall where nobody knows our families and the elders hardly know each other, and fade out a lot more.
but an elder asked for our address, which we didn’t feel comfortable giving him, because we don’t want any unexpected visits to “shepard” us, when we miss a few meetings, because they already text us when we miss 2 meetings in a row, which we had just gotten back from our honeymoon 🙄 so we “accidentally” gave him the wrong apartment number.
so if they ever come pokin around they will be lost, and if they call or text us we will just have an excuse for not replying.
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john.prestor
To be fair it would be nice if the Elders admitted they keep tabs on people unless, correct me if I'm wrong, pretending this is about locating someone in the event of a disaster or the Great Tribulation. Like I get if you live on the coast of some tsunami-prone island but in rural America or some European city like what kind of disaster do you guys expect?
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“Millions now living will never die”
by HappyBlessedFree inso i’m just reading the part in ray franz book “crisis of conscience” about the 1925 prediction of “millions now living will never die”.. ofcourse all witnesses are very familiar with this campaign.
yet none of us ever had an issue with it, including myself.
since the booklet was published in 1920, we are one year away from 100 years from that time.
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john.prestor
Carla, that's hysterical, I mean damn apostates are just utterly committed to this whole 'lead them astray' thing, they even forge old books. Liike what is this, how naive do you have to be to believe something like that, like apostates just lurk backstage fabricating documents or something? Either the person really wants to believe that or the person is stupid, there's no nice way to say it.
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Meaning of Luke 9:49,50
by truthlover123 inthese two verses indicate that "others" were preaching in jesus' name and when the apostles reported it to him, he said "let him alone for he who is with us is not against us".... since the wtbts states they are the only way to salvation, what does this scripture mean?
others have the right to salvation as well - straight from jesus' mouth- as long as they preach ( in the verse it says expel demons as well) using jesus name?
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john.prestor
Mithraism and Ophism weren't 'Christ cults,' just wanna clarify that.
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Short-sighted WT ?
by Tech49 init has always struck me that wt is so very short-sighted in many things.
often, they are very re-active, and not so much pro-active in their reasoning and the way they plan for the future.. just thinking today, and have kicked this one around for a while now.. is the watchtower organization truly sustainable?
is a new monetary structure on the horizon?
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john.prestor
For all intents and purposes the organization serves the interests of the Governing Body and their helpers and a few other elites worldwide, Branch committees and Bethel heavies, Circuit Overseers, and that's pretty much it anymore since they axed the Special Pioneers and District Overseers. Most of these elites are pretty old by now, at least in their 40s if not 50s or 60s, they don't need to worry about 20 years down the line they'll be dead by then. Because the organization's concern is their concern, because they run the organization and enjoy a comfortable, leisurely, sometimes luxurious lifestyle through the organization they 'serve,' I doubt they think about the next generation very much. While the organization declines year-by-year it's not going anywhere fast, and as long as they keep retaining kids they can and will continue existing for the next 50 to 100 years in some diminished form of their former glory. Yeah, they aint gonna print as much, theyll lat off more Bethelites, sell more Kingdom Halls, keep hanging on the donation drum, but they won't just dry up and vanish like some prehistoric lake.
No fall but preceded by a declination.
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“Millions now living will never die”
by HappyBlessedFree inso i’m just reading the part in ray franz book “crisis of conscience” about the 1925 prediction of “millions now living will never die”.. ofcourse all witnesses are very familiar with this campaign.
yet none of us ever had an issue with it, including myself.
since the booklet was published in 1920, we are one year away from 100 years from that time.
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john.prestor
Jehovah's Witnesses take pride in their organization's past, in its longevity and history just like Catholics, forgetting their grandparents and parents made the same prophecies for the last 140 years they peddle door to door today and look forward to. They're all complicit in it, not just the Governing Body. People's parents and grandparents, assuming they're alive, don't want to admit they believed things that never came true, especially 1975, and unless they kept a journal it's easy to forget or repress the past, or just listen to the Governing Body's latest revision of the past. Its the same reason they stock the library with old books but dont let you check them out: better to admire the past from a comfortable distance like a mountain range or plain.