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  memorial-

  by zeb in

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  a criticism of the wt way is the practice of using 50 words when 10 would do.

  this is an example of an aged speaking style practised in the 1930s 1950's.

  just look at movies from that era, political speeches etc.

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  john.prestor

  Blondie, thanks for making me laugh this morning. That's exactly what audiences are.
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  Observed at the Memorial

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i went to the memorial the other night, there's a kingdom hall on the bus route back from a local college where i was doing some research and admiring the architecture.

  i'm in my street clothes, i look nice but i stood out like a sore thumb.

  i went in as it started and got a seat in the back.

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  john.prestor

  That makes sense, yeah, it's not like she consciously plotted in her head, it's just what she does but what she does comes down to seeing if I will obey.

  Stan livedeath, I was never in.
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  Observed at the Memorial

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i went to the memorial the other night, there's a kingdom hall on the bus route back from a local college where i was doing some research and admiring the architecture.

  i'm in my street clothes, i look nice but i stood out like a sore thumb.

  i went in as it started and got a seat in the back.

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  john.prestor

  That's rude. It's a ritual about acknowledging the inferiority they assign you.
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  Observed at the Memorial

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i went to the memorial the other night, there's a kingdom hall on the bus route back from a local college where i was doing some research and admiring the architecture.

  i'm in my street clothes, i look nice but i stood out like a sore thumb.

  i went in as it started and got a seat in the back.

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  john.prestor

  Yeah it gave me a bad vibe, they make this big effort to invite the public and somebody walks in who looks like the public and they get all weird. I thought about saying something when I went to leave but I didn't know which attendance watched me and which didn't.

  SeaBreeze, that fits with what I saw. It's like I heard the speaker quote the verse, why do I need to look at it on your tablet? What am I going to see on your tablet except the same words I just heard?
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  The brother at the door

  by days of future passed in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i got up late today.

  i hear the doorbell ring and i go - not really dressed for company - i stand back and see a jw man maybe 60 years old or so.

  at first i was just going to brush him off.

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  john.prestor

  You never know. Sometimes you take the right approach by getting passionate, it makes you sound like you mean what you say.
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  Maybe Witnesses are the "world"

  by nowawake14 in

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  i just realized that maybe witnesses are the world, because of all the hypocrisy ive seen with my own eyes.

  alot of the jw kids (not all) ive been around acted "worldier" than the average person.

  it sucked.

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  john.prestor

  By the world you mean they can act just as vicious and hypocritical as the very worldly people they criticize? Yeah, you're totally right.
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  Observed at the Memorial

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i went to the memorial the other night, there's a kingdom hall on the bus route back from a local college where i was doing some research and admiring the architecture.

  i'm in my street clothes, i look nice but i stood out like a sore thumb.

  i went in as it started and got a seat in the back.

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  john.prestor

  So i went to the Memorial the other night, there's a kingdom hall on the bus route back from a local college where I was doing some research and admiring the architecture. I'm in my street clothes, I look nice but I stood out like a sore thumb. I went in as it started and got a seat in the back. This lady next to me tried to show me scriptures, I kinda blew her off enough that she stopped and left me to myself. I got the vibe they do that knowingly or not to see if you'll obey them: Look at the scripture, listen to me read or explain it, do as I say. I'd welcome other posters thoughts on that.

  As the speaker starts talking I see these two attendants come up behind me kinda to my right and hover and whisper to one another and then I heard the one say, 'Keep an eye on him.' The second usher went and sat a few rows ahead of me I guess in case I charged the stage or something. It creeped me out.

  When they went to pass out the 'loaf (of bread, what happened to of bread, a loaf of what?)' the attendant turned half-around in his seat and eyed me like crazy, I dunno how he thought I didn't notice... or maybe he wanted to intimidate me, who knows. I got the impression they knew about Kingdom Hall crashes and expected me to stand up shout somethung and then chug the wine that isn't Jesus but I didn't, just passed it along like everybody else, I will never get over what a weird 'celebration that is. Then I just got up and left.

  The whole thing creeped me out. If I wasn't a researcher and I didn't know anything about them and I saw them pull a stunt like that, I would get a bad impression immediately. I did get a bad impression immediately. But it doesn't change my impression of them: just more surveillance at the hands of 'loving shepherds.'
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  The brother at the door

  by days of future passed in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i got up late today.

  i hear the doorbell ring and i go - not really dressed for company - i stand back and see a jw man maybe 60 years old or so.

  at first i was just going to brush him off.

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  john.prestor

  Respect for the organization, he tried to shame you and act superior to you rather than admit the Governing Body's despicable cover-up, which he could investigate himself if he let himself thunk for himself for two minutes.
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  Enjoyed the Memorial

  by ScottyRex in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  probably not a popular opinion on here....and haven't been actively attending meetings since 1988....(i know i know a submarine attender) however thoroughly enjoyed attending this evening...was good to see lots of people i remember whilst growing up in this faith, they were genuine and the whole atmosphere was one of love.

  sure if i suddenly wanted to become active again and didn't change my lifestyle they would drop me like a bomb.....however i haven't and won't and they didn't and don't.

  this works for me.. i cannot demonize the witnesses on what i have seen tonight.

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  john.prestor

  How on earth can you call a man paranoid for telling you exactly what you're getting into if you join this religion? They will love bomb you, they always do, and when you cross them in any way they will shame you hard and throw you out. You're either deceiving yourself or trying to pick a fight, I can't tell which.
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  Enjoyed the Memorial

  by ScottyRex in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  probably not a popular opinion on here....and haven't been actively attending meetings since 1988....(i know i know a submarine attender) however thoroughly enjoyed attending this evening...was good to see lots of people i remember whilst growing up in this faith, they were genuine and the whole atmosphere was one of love.

  sure if i suddenly wanted to become active again and didn't change my lifestyle they would drop me like a bomb.....however i haven't and won't and they didn't and don't.

  this works for me.. i cannot demonize the witnesses on what i have seen tonight.

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  john.prestor

  No one asks you to demonize them. We ask you to see through them.