You never know. Sometimes you take the right approach by getting passionate, it makes you sound like you mean what you say.
john.prestor
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The brother at the door
by days of future passed ini got up late today.
i hear the doorbell ring and i go - not really dressed for company - i stand back and see a jw man maybe 60 years old or so.
at first i was just going to brush him off.
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Maybe Witnesses are the "world"
by nowawake14 ini just realized that maybe witnesses are the world, because of all the hypocrisy ive seen with my own eyes.
alot of the jw kids (not all) ive been around acted "worldier" than the average person.
it sucked.
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john.prestor
By the world you mean they can act just as vicious and hypocritical as the very worldly people they criticize? Yeah, you're totally right.
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Observed at the Memorial
by john.prestor inso i went to the memorial the other night, there's a kingdom hall on the bus route back from a local college where i was doing some research and admiring the architecture.
i'm in my street clothes, i look nice but i stood out like a sore thumb.
i went in as it started and got a seat in the back.
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john.prestor
So i went to the Memorial the other night, there's a kingdom hall on the bus route back from a local college where I was doing some research and admiring the architecture. I'm in my street clothes, I look nice but I stood out like a sore thumb. I went in as it started and got a seat in the back. This lady next to me tried to show me scriptures, I kinda blew her off enough that she stopped and left me to myself. I got the vibe they do that knowingly or not to see if you'll obey them: Look at the scripture, listen to me read or explain it, do as I say. I'd welcome other posters thoughts on that.
As the speaker starts talking I see these two attendants come up behind me kinda to my right and hover and whisper to one another and then I heard the one say, 'Keep an eye on him.' The second usher went and sat a few rows ahead of me I guess in case I charged the stage or something. It creeped me out.
When they went to pass out the 'loaf (of bread, what happened to of bread, a loaf of what?)' the attendant turned half-around in his seat and eyed me like crazy, I dunno how he thought I didn't notice... or maybe he wanted to intimidate me, who knows. I got the impression they knew about Kingdom Hall crashes and expected me to stand up shout somethung and then chug the wine that isn't Jesus but I didn't, just passed it along like everybody else, I will never get over what a weird 'celebration that is. Then I just got up and left.
The whole thing creeped me out. If I wasn't a researcher and I didn't know anything about them and I saw them pull a stunt like that, I would get a bad impression immediately. I did get a bad impression immediately. But it doesn't change my impression of them: just more surveillance at the hands of 'loving shepherds.'
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The brother at the door
by days of future passed ini got up late today.
i hear the doorbell ring and i go - not really dressed for company - i stand back and see a jw man maybe 60 years old or so.
at first i was just going to brush him off.
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john.prestor
Respect for the organization, he tried to shame you and act superior to you rather than admit the Governing Body's despicable cover-up, which he could investigate himself if he let himself thunk for himself for two minutes.
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Enjoyed the Memorial
by ScottyRex inprobably not a popular opinion on here....and haven't been actively attending meetings since 1988....(i know i know a submarine attender) however thoroughly enjoyed attending this evening...was good to see lots of people i remember whilst growing up in this faith, they were genuine and the whole atmosphere was one of love.
sure if i suddenly wanted to become active again and didn't change my lifestyle they would drop me like a bomb.....however i haven't and won't and they didn't and don't.
this works for me.. i cannot demonize the witnesses on what i have seen tonight.
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john.prestor
How on earth can you call a man paranoid for telling you exactly what you're getting into if you join this religion? They will love bomb you, they always do, and when you cross them in any way they will shame you hard and throw you out. You're either deceiving yourself or trying to pick a fight, I can't tell which.
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Enjoyed the Memorial
by ScottyRex inprobably not a popular opinion on here....and haven't been actively attending meetings since 1988....(i know i know a submarine attender) however thoroughly enjoyed attending this evening...was good to see lots of people i remember whilst growing up in this faith, they were genuine and the whole atmosphere was one of love.
sure if i suddenly wanted to become active again and didn't change my lifestyle they would drop me like a bomb.....however i haven't and won't and they didn't and don't.
this works for me.. i cannot demonize the witnesses on what i have seen tonight.
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john.prestor
No one asks you to demonize them. We ask you to see through them.
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***Red Alert for Memorial Avoiders***
by The Fall Guy indavid can't xsplane of the gibbering body is urging jw's to go out in field serve-us today to target their bible studies, return visits, and inactive jw's for a second time with the invitation to the annual rejection of christ - just in case they've "forgotten the date" or "lost their invitation.
go to 1 minute 45 seconds for the marketing speech.. https://tv.jw.org/#en/mediaitems/webhomeslider/pub-jwb_201904_14_video.
could the cult's hierarchy be fearing reduced attendances this year - especially of "interested ones"?.
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john.prestor
Gorbatchoc, it comes across as childish, like he's lecturing small children.
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Review: revised Elder's manual, part 4 (final part)
by neat blue dog inhere's the cruel, uncomfortable and dehumanizing description of transport for disfellowshipped ones:.
in cases of real need, the elders can determine wheth-er some assistance may be provided.
such assistance would be viewed as similar to public transportation in that there should be no conversing with the disfellowshipped or disassociated person.
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john.prestor
Recognizing spiritual weakness to me sounds like they're saying recognizing when someone tries to fade. Does anybody else get that impression?
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***Red Alert for Memorial Avoiders***
by The Fall Guy indavid can't xsplane of the gibbering body is urging jw's to go out in field serve-us today to target their bible studies, return visits, and inactive jw's for a second time with the invitation to the annual rejection of christ - just in case they've "forgotten the date" or "lost their invitation.
go to 1 minute 45 seconds for the marketing speech.. https://tv.jw.org/#en/mediaitems/webhomeslider/pub-jwb_201904_14_video.
could the cult's hierarchy be fearing reduced attendances this year - especially of "interested ones"?.
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john.prestor
Yeah it does come across as a little weird. Did they do this before? He sure comes off as a condescending dick, telling them to memorize phrases. And his whole they might have forgotten what day it is or lost the invitation thing sounds like he pulled it out of you you-know-where.
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Review: revised Elder's manual, part 4 (final part)
by neat blue dog inhere's the cruel, uncomfortable and dehumanizing description of transport for disfellowshipped ones:.
in cases of real need, the elders can determine wheth-er some assistance may be provided.
such assistance would be viewed as similar to public transportation in that there should be no conversing with the disfellowshipped or disassociated person.
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john.prestor
Individual Witnesses need to pay the administrative fee? So insulting, they go out there to make converts so people can donate their money to the Governing Body. And they make you pay to advertise their religion. Incredible.
I also love that they throw in the most important point of spiritual weakness, criticizing the elders in the organization, right at the end. Don't people say that's what you're supposed to do if you're trying to slip something by someone, throw it in right at the end? Classic.