They always have an excuse, and their excuses are always paper thin (no more book studies to save publishers gas money), and yet the faithful believe every word.
john.prestor
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Great Sell-Off is for the Expansion Work in Africa
by HiddenPimo inthey say this sell off is for the need to build more kh.
however the branch accounting video that was leaked shows otherwise.. is there a way to find out how many halls are constructed in africa and other places to show the money trail is to pay for child abuse cases and not new halls.?.
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One of the points of conventions: obedience training
by john.prestor ini think a lot these days about people who train you to be obedient without telling you that's what they're doing.
the thought occurred to me that that could be part of the idea of regional conventions.
it's not like they present much of anything new to the audience, it's the same old talks year after year, the same old information, yeah, repackaged a little, different themes, different illustrations, but the same information, obey the faithful slave, armageddon is imminent, go door-to-door, the usual.
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john.prestor
That's interesting, careful, yeah I see your point. They pared them down and got rid of most of that, no food, no plays, less and less fun, more and more Big Brother on the big screen.
Gotta agree with sir82, it's all about appearance in the Watchtower world. Spirituality means performance. Stuff as simple and silly as how many colors you highlight your Watchtower in like you're 12.
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Are there any JW songs that you HATE?
by neat blue dog inyou're probably thinking 'all of them', and it's true that the songbook is riddled with wrong stuff .
but are there any songs in particular that irk your moral sensibilities?.
for me it would be song #26, "you did it for me".
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john.prestor
Yeah, they sort of mumble or drone the words. They don't even raise their voices to the normal volume level you would sing at. It seems like they're afraid to express themselves.
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One of the points of conventions: obedience training
by john.prestor ini think a lot these days about people who train you to be obedient without telling you that's what they're doing.
the thought occurred to me that that could be part of the idea of regional conventions.
it's not like they present much of anything new to the audience, it's the same old talks year after year, the same old information, yeah, repackaged a little, different themes, different illustrations, but the same information, obey the faithful slave, armageddon is imminent, go door-to-door, the usual.
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john.prestor
I think a lot these days about people who train you to be obedient without telling you that's what they're doing. The thought occurred to me that that could be part of the idea of Regional Conventions. It's not like they present much of anything new to the audience, it's the same old talks year after year, the same old information, yeah, repackaged a little, different themes, different illustrations, but the same information, obey the faithful slave, Armageddon is imminent, go door-to-door, the usual. And three days in a row of eight or nine hours of talks with brief videos and skits is too much for people to digest anyway. I went to 5 or 6 conventions as a researcher and my brain hurt after more than a couple hours of talks, it's rapid-fire and too much for you to process, not to mention that many of the speakers speak in a voice that grates on you like you're a little kid getting lectured.
It almost feels like the point is to see if you'll sit there obediently. And they make you clap on command like you're seals at SeaWorld, it's obvious when the speakers want you to applaud, they raise the pitch of their voice or ask rhetorical questions ('We're here because we love what we're learning afrom the faithful slave, aren't we?') and the audience obediently claps. And they used to be worse, I mean nine-day conventions, whatever you need to say you should be able to say it in one day if one talk.
What do other posters think about what I'm arguing? I know that part of the point is to connect people and create a sense of community, give out new publications (well, used to be), give Brothers the chance to look good on stage, but I think this is part of it too, part of what the Governing Body going for.
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Elders intimating protesters at Jehovah's Witness conventions
by RULES & REGULATIONS inbe courageous - jehovah's witness convention 2018. .
here is a video that caligirl7525 posted where she is protesting with a small sign at the .
''be courageous 2018 convention.
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john.prestor
Doctor Who, how would you feel if you stood on a street corner and seven large men came and stood in front of you? It's a threat, they don't need to be waving guns or knives around to imply to your brain that they could beat you up. They're not going to, but they know the effect they'll have on you. It's like seeing a wolf or bear in the distance. You know it's not going to come for you, but it still gets your heart going a little bit.
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Are there any JW songs that you HATE?
by neat blue dog inyou're probably thinking 'all of them', and it's true that the songbook is riddled with wrong stuff .
but are there any songs in particular that irk your moral sensibilities?.
for me it would be song #26, "you did it for me".
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john.prestor
'Loyally submitting to theocratic order' (114?) is the creepiest song I've ever heard. When I told my advisor the title of the song, he looked at me wide-eyed and said, no it's not, you can't name a song that.
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Elders intimating protesters at Jehovah's Witness conventions
by RULES & REGULATIONS inbe courageous - jehovah's witness convention 2018. .
here is a video that caligirl7525 posted where she is protesting with a small sign at the .
''be courageous 2018 convention.
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john.prestor
Yep, you're right. It's meant to intimidate protesters and keep Jehovah's Witnesses from talking to them in privacy. Very childish and controlling.
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A Confrontation with Elders!
by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara inhere is a post i found.
boy the wife has balls of steel !
you decide.. {they stopped by yesterday to invite my wife to the memorial.. my wife is fully awake thanks to one of my daughters!
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john.prestor
That's their go to excuse, people are waiting for us, it's pathetic. They dont want to admit you beat them so they run off pretending they're not running off.
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Watchtower hires off-duty law enforcement
by Diogenesister inan indignant law enforcement officer wrote kim & mikey to let them know watchtower had placed an advertisement on a facebook page dedicated to law enforcement staff only, looking to hire a fully uniformed and armed officer at $35 per hour.
the commission was for the memorial in a specified texan venue.. the officer was particularly miffed at the hypocrisy considering the terrible way law enforcement was portrayed in the 2018 convention video, where the jws had been herded into a field to be slaughtered by a large group of officers.
not to mention the fact they are only too willing to call police for their own protection, yet won’t do so when it comes to protecting children from potential or actual abuse.. https://youtu.be/-rpcsztnvyo.
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john.prestor
It's hypocritical to criticize the government and call them tools of Satan or whatever phrase they use and then hire a cop to protect you at the memorial from the dangerous apostates.That's clearly what that's about. Thieves don't typically rob Kingdom Halls, and arsonists don't usually burn them down.
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Does It Bother You That Christian Churches and Christian People Are Being Persecuted and Killed?
by minimus ineven if your fed up with “religion” , i don’t want to see christians persecuted.
it’s happening in many parts of the world and it’s so wrong.
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john.prestor
Many forms of Christianity are little more than disguised sadomasochism where they fuck up kids and adults in the name of God's love. Threats of hell and empty promises of heaven if you waste your life on earth. I have little sympathy for that. And I get the vibe by the way that you're trying to start a fight by posting threads you know not everyone on here well agree with. It's kinda lame.