Matix....once again..'it ain't about what we say we do, it's about what we do'. There was a time in my life when I was so upset with my critics. I wanted them to judge me according to my intentions and they kept judging me according to my CONDUCT!!!. What a great dynamic. As true for me as it is for the WTBS. For someone who may never have experienced the dire consequences of elder malfeasnace in dealing with molestation, it certainly doesn't serve the interests of sensibility to say it 'can't be like you describe it'. I really hope you are in a congregation that is very loving and responsible to this problem, but many of us haven't been and all the rehtoric in the world won't change that. Do you know what it feels like when you see the elders protect their precious children from a molester, while the others in the cong. can't be warned because that would be causing divisions?
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Dateline discussed openly in our congregation
by TheMatrix inyesterday, the presiding overseer (elder h) read the letter from the christian congregation of jehovahs witnesses (us branch) regarding their policy on child abuse.
all scriptures were also looked up and read.. elder h is a very prepared brother.
he is a gilead graduate and served as a missionary for about 7 years in kenya before coming home because of illness.
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Circuit Overseers and Corruption
by MARTINLEYSHON inas an ex presiding overseer and public affairs spokesperson who is now disfellowshipped!!!
i am new to this site and have read with keen interest the many and varied topics that have been posted.
during my 9 years of presiding i encountered certain corrupt c/os for example the friends would treat them like little demy gods, hanging onto their every word, they would, on their visit influence the brothers to part with cash for privledges.
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Welcome Martin to the site, looking forward to your input....Bonovox, I think the point is not about invalidating the 'good ol daze', heck, we all had some pretty neat experiences back then. Yeah, the Peace Train was about to pull on out and the 'place' was a hub of warm fuzzies. But because the organization is now so rife with graff and corruption, any person in a resposible position (C/O) not seeing the truth about the truth has to work really hard to disregard the facts. Accountability is always waiting.
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TO THE DRAFFENVILLE ELDERS: intent to sue
by dungbeetle in1) i am a sister in a congregation of jehovah's witnesses in southern california.. i have a job.
i have a life.
i have a family.
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That gets their atttention.....with millions of eyes watching and thousands of more voices waiting to be heard!!!!......thanks Dung.
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A Canadian Elder Speaks Out!
by silentlambs indear brother bowen:.
i have not yet seen the dateline program.
however, i have set my vct to record it this evening, when i will be at the book study.
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Thanks Bill for keeping us informed of others outrage over WBTS policy. I will always remember the overt and covert ways we were made to feel that our reaction was 'so out of step with the rest of God's organization'. We are most certainly not alone!!! A new perspective to 'the small one becoming a mighty nation'.
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Dateline Aftermath
by silentlambs inthe result of the airing of the dateline program has been very positive.
dateline program will no doubt air again in reruns and may get further coverage soon.
there have been many mixed emotions as a result of this program.
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Thanks Bill........What is it? There on the horizon, such a bright light. Look it seems to be coming from Brooklyn. Oh dear brothers look, we have been provided with 'new light'. We've waited on Jehovah, not run ahead like some, and now somehow policies are a changin'.....can you just hear it!!!
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Congregation Letter 5-24-02
by silentlambs inchristian congregation.
of jehovah's witnesses.
2528 route 22 patterson ny 12563-2237 phone (845) 306 1100 .
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So many thanks to Bill, Barbara, the Pandelos and all the others that have been of service to Jah in this regard.
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Congregation Letter 5-24-02
by silentlambs inchristian congregation.
of jehovah's witnesses.
2528 route 22 patterson ny 12563-2237 phone (845) 306 1100 .
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SloBoy
Jesus said 'by your own words you will be judged'. For all the rhetoric spewed by the WBTS about Jah hating child abuse, they better take heed. Let's remember, and as previous posts have noted, according to the scriptures, the mess mankind finds itself in is because the devil molested Jah's original children. Does He have an interest in child molestation? You better believe it. And He doesn't need some yo-yo policy to help Him figure out what to do about it.
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NEW JW POLICY POSTED!!!
by amac ini don't know if anyone has posted on this already but there is a new press release at http://www.jw-media.org/releases/default.htm?content=bg_molestation.htm that defines the current jw policy and i believe it has taken a step in the right direction!.
although they have not literally changed it to require reporting to the authorities in all states, they have finally put into print the following: "additionally, the victim may wish to report the matter to the authorities, and it is his or her absolute right to do so.".
i am glad to see, straight from the wt, acknowledgement that the adults involved have every right to go to the police.
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Amac.....not to beat a dead horse,but....you say the quoted policy to report to the authorities is one's 'absolute right' with no sanctions for doing so. I've read the policy a few times now and nowhere does it refer to that 'no sanctions for doing so' clause. Did I miss something?
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Wakeup Call for Sister-in-law
by Carmel inlast evening my cell phone rang and it was a sister-in-law of mine who had left her jw husband (one of my older brothers) because he was molesting their daughters and the elders blamed her for not being an adequate wife.
she left and was df'd for it.
anyway, we have had correspondence for the past four or five years but never did we talk about the "private" matters.
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yeah I know, it's 'psycHological'. Important to maintain our academic credibility.
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Wakeup Call for Sister-in-law
by Carmel inlast evening my cell phone rang and it was a sister-in-law of mine who had left her jw husband (one of my older brothers) because he was molesting their daughters and the elders blamed her for not being an adequate wife.
she left and was df'd for it.
anyway, we have had correspondence for the past four or five years but never did we talk about the "private" matters.
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Thank-you for all your posts. The covers are being pulled on the Borg's psycological manipulation of those who have taken a stand against molestation.