Great thread.....I've had this discussion a few times with ex-JW's. One of the pat responses from Witnesses is " How can you turn your back on God's organization after all it has done for you? " In thinking that over, I have to be honest and say, yes, one of the greatest gifts of my life was found at a Kingdom Hall; my WIFE!! But I did not discover my spiritual need, my sense of honesty, my work ethic, or sobriety at the KH. And my wife and I are quite sure that if we had not put some distance between us and the sick dynamics that so saturates most KH's, we would not be married ( and happily I might add ) today. There are indeed so many people and organizations that I am indebted to for whatever quality of life I have today, but the Watchtower Publishing Corp. is far, far down that list. Did I say FAR DOWN?
SloBoy
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Being JW did not make me a better person...
by Granny Linda inno, it wasn't that group of people who showed me what life is about.
hell, their so busy preparing to die that it seems life eludes them.
it was by becoming an active participant in my own adventure.
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Drifting Away Signs
by JH inwhat signs did you give, when you started drifting away?
were you able to tell who was slowly drifting away in you congregation just by their attitude?edited by - jh on 19 january 2003 19:18:56.
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- Talking-up the benefits of 12 step principles
-Focusing more on salvation as a gift and not something earned
-Learning to love/respect/dignify my neighbor without conditions
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Society's damage limitation article.
by dmouse introubled by reports of the very problems that were supposed to be only the mark of false religions peadophilia (and hiding it) and hypocrisy (supporting the un) many honest hearted jws, it seems, have slowed down their meeting attendance and field ministry.
what has the society done to calm these very real worries concerning actual, not imagined, problems.. .
simple.
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I hope every individual in the media that has ever done anything on the JW molest scandal gets a scanned copy of this Branch-Davidian like lunacy.
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A newbie says hello
by Icansaylucky inhello, i've been a lurker for about a year now and finally decided to register and start posting.
i don't have time to tell my story right now, but plan on doing so soon.
i guess i'm putting it off as i'm not sure where to start without it being a book.
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Oh my!!!!......another poster. Simon's gonna be RICH!!!... RICH I tell ya!
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St. Louis Reporter Seeks Silentlambs for Interview
by abbagail infrom: "silentlambs" [email protected].
date: tue, 7 jan 2003 23:19:35 -0600. to: [email protected].
subject: st louis area.
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SwordofJah,
I detect a bit of a double standard. If waiting on Jah is such a fundamental part of the Watchtower Publishing Company's teaching, then why do they maintain a legal dept., chock full of lawyers, poised to take ANY and ALL matters into litigation, whether they be defendant or plaintiff. A legal dept., I might add, of formidable financial clout, funded on the backs of those "waiting on Jah".
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UK JW Roy Stockdale served 6 PMs
by blondie inhttp://icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100local/page.cfm?objectid=12530681&method=full&siteid=50081
showman roy bows out centre stage with tony blair .
jan 14 2003. .
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Blondie, thanks for the post
I think often of this paradox amongst JW's, whether here in U.S., Great Britain, or anywhere else in the world. They claim to be so different than the rest, in that they sacrifice their lives for the service of God. In reality, many do just as the person mentioned in the article; get a good job, make a decent living, STAY at the job for years building a nice retirement, and then fade into the golden years doing a bit more "in the ministry", all the while given special attention by the friends cuz he done well. Here again, I have nothing against a person having a life of economic stability, but please cut the bull about it being a live of sacrifice to Jah. I know they like to rationalize by saying that Brother So and So had to work because he had pressing family responsibilities. But most of them took on those responsibilies willingly. All in all, the Witnesses get comfort and satisfaction in doing and having the things that the majority of the rest of mankind does, and I don't mean having sex with farm animals. It was just a handful of us in every cong. that put aside taking care of ourselves in the hopes of being found worthy. The Witness life is one of great hypocrisy, denial, and "cognitive dissonance".
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Bee Gees' Maurice Gibb - DEAD at 53
by Prisca inhttp://news.ninemsn.com.au/entertainment/story_44872.asp
bee gee fans gather at hospital.
fans of the bee gees gathered outside the hospital where singer maurice gibb is being treated after suffering a heart attack.
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Such a sad day. From a fan of not only their immense talent, but also their spirit of survival.
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DA'ing Party at my house!
by Princess insteve and i decided to throw an officially disassociated/excommunicated (whatever) party at our house on saturday the 11th.
all are invited!
since we just got home last night from two weeks in hawaii, i don't have a lot of time to plan and prepare.
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Oh Boy!!! a party at Steve and Rachel's. Better fire up the motorcycle. Er, wait a minute, hmm..'dead of winter', me better rethink the idea. O.K., I've come to my decision. Stay planted on sofa over the weekend and watch some Foosball. You all have a grand time. Maybe someone could video the more interesting points and keep it for posterity. With you in spirit.
SloBoy
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alcoholics/non-alcoholics and AA
by IronGland ini realise this question is off-topic for this forum but i believe this forum moved away from it's original intent long ago, and is now just a social place to talk to others with a similar background.
i've got a friend who has recently begun going to aa meetings.
she tells me that an 'alcoholics' body breaks down alcohol differently from a non-alcoholic and the difference in metabolism is what differentiates between an alcoholic and non-alcoholic.
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IronGland,
Check out a very good book answering all your questions: "Under the Influence" by Dr. Ketchum. It is available in paperback. Most good book stores can find it for you either by the title or by the name Ketchum. If Ketchum is wrong, try Ketcham.
Alcohol does do something different in the alcoholics body. Plain and simple. Alcoholics are allergic to alcohol. Just like some people are allergic to peanuts and peanuts do something different to their body than your Normal peanut ingestion.
Check out the book, you might find it quite revealing. Try reading the Big Book of AA also.
Beware of Contempt Prior to Investigation.
Best Wishes
SloBoy's Spouse / From a long line of people who didn't metabolize normally.
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"Alone I break" if how I feel inside
by Truth2Me in" i wanted to cry but i was too numb inside.
several days went by, i had my judicial hearing (i think that was sunday), they told me that i was going to be disfellowshipped.
i accepted that i deserved that.
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Truth2Me,
Thank-you for sharing your story. When we "talk", it begins to give the power back to us. Many on this site can relate, as is demonstrated by all the thoughtful, loving responses. You mentioned that you came from an abusive family arrangement. Was alcohol involved? If so, you might want to try Al-Anon. They can lay some wonderful tools at your feet and through their experience, help you to end the cycle of doing the same things over and over again while expecting different results. Hang in there, and don't give up before the miracle happens.