Exelder

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  any fruits from Theocratic victories should go to Jehovah’s honor, and not to the exaltation of any ... organization.

  by LaFrancia in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  very interesting w 50 6/15 pp.

  the general principle shown is that any fruits from theocratic victories should go to jehovah’s honor, and not to the exaltation of any individual or organization.

  the israelites stripped the midianites of their fine raiment and jewelry; so the truth declared against the world leaders, whether religious or political, commercial or military, strips them of the “higher powers” claim in which they clothe themselves, removes them from their exalted position, plunders the prestige and adoration they once enjoyed, and they lose the flattering titles that allowed them to glitter and shine.

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  Exelder

  Not really on topic but I just shuddered at thought of the old very long WT's with 30 or more paragraphs.

  In the days when timing wasn't really classed as important we used to have WT studies that were about an hour and 45 minutes (really) and each paragraph was dra-aggggged out. I hated.

  Young ones have it so easy these days when 22 paragraphs are considered long. lol

  PS. I admire people hunting through old litrature trying to find things, but personally, I never want to see another single WT again in my life.
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  why the watchtower is so short of money

  by pepperheart in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower is so short of money because they have to pay for all the upkeep of so many branch offices around the world.because so many of the branch offices are in very poor countries and they are not balancing the budgets.

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  Exelder

  The congregation that I was in worked really hard to get a new kingdom hall and ended up with a surplus of £35,000 which they wanted to keep for repairs, maintenance etc.

  After the circuit overseer visited they received a letter informing them that they needed to send it to Bethel. The congregation was allowed to keep about £2000 and the rest was sent away.

  it was put to public vote on the Thursday night and although there were some grumblings and people feeling genuinely ripped off, the vote was unnanimous and the money was transferred.

  It was THEIR hard earned and donated money for their own hall but of course it went supposedly to Africa to build KH's there (Did it get there or not, I don't know).
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  JW-RUSSIA.org cross image

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was just browsing the russian jw site and saw this image that appears to represent christian persecution by showing handcuffs in front of prison bars that appear to form a cross.

  which would be weird because they don't even believe in the cross, or maybe it was clip art from another source and they didn't notice.

  or last and most likely i'm seeing things that aren't there 😜.

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  Exelder

  There are so many other serious REAL issues with the JW's to be concerned about without getting consumed with conspiracy theories like this.

  We don't want to look as nutty as the JW's are by analysing every little word or image.

  Concentrate on the BIG issues....promotion of shunning, splitting families up, cult mind control, hiding abuse, preventing further education, extraction of money and resources from members, and constantly changing the goalposts regarding armmagedon etc.

  Next people will be analysing any pictures of the sky in WT publications and making shapes out of clouds.
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  JW property shaped in demonic images for the Demon princes?

  by WildSteve in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the most obvious is the eye of horus cleaver designed jw convention grounds in denmark.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loyjxu4qrvw.

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  Exelder

  *rolls eyes" and sighs.

  Wild Steve, there are REAL JW issues that are much more terrifying and incredible than these daft made up conspiracy theories that you are intent on promoting.

  Perhaps you should go on the "Prince Philip organised the assasination of Princess Diana" website instead. They LOVE conspiracy theories there.
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  wondering

  by dogisgod in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was thinking about how paul was able to hijack jesus message.

  he never met jesus (claimed an encounter after jesus death that affected his eyesight) .

  he was a persecutor of jesus followers.

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  Exelder

  Anybody who makes their name in religion are generally insane, egotistical, charismatic and make themselves and their message attractive to a whole load of brainwashed followers who are desperate to believe in something and be led.
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  I’m Sending You My Thoughts and Prayers

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  how many people here can sincerely say those words to someone?

  i take it most here do not say prayers, right?

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  Exelder

  I don't pray and don't believe in God anymore so to say that they were in my prayers would be worthless.

  I tell them that they are constantly in my thoughts and follow up regularly with a phone call or visit if they need one.
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  tommy Robinson --update

  by zeb in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk8b_xqi_nm.

  this is self explanatory.

  please if you are in a commonwealth country write /phone /fax your local member to support tr release from his current place of imprisonment.. you may not receive any reply but do so anyway.

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  Exelder

  I am not going to get into the debates but I am well aware of the English Defence League and the agenda of a lot of the folllowers.

  The media perpertuate the problem by not allowing them to have any dialogue which creates a breeding ground of fear and racism amongst some members instead of allowing people to talk about issues and allaying peoples fears and misconceptions.
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  tommy Robinson --update

  by zeb in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk8b_xqi_nm.

  this is self explanatory.

  please if you are in a commonwealth country write /phone /fax your local member to support tr release from his current place of imprisonment.. you may not receive any reply but do so anyway.

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  I don't like the undertones of what he says (racism hiding behind some facts) but I think he has a right to say them and there should be debate and dialogue.
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  WT Conspiracy Theory - Pinky Ring - DUMB, I know

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  oh man, i know i'm gonna catch flack for this.. everyone sees masonic conspiracies everywhere.. i am not a conspiracy theorist.

  i don't honestly believe the governing body are freemasons.. yet, probably due to cruising this site and seeing all the masonic conspiracy threads, i saw this when looking for a shot of lett's pinky ring to show how he wore one in october, but then took it off in may to ask for money.. .

  original is on the left, and on the right, i played with the brightness/contrast to get it to show up a little better.. what does the pattern on his ring look like to you?.

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  Exelder

  I was elder for MANY years and can assure you that there was not even a whisper of such things.
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  Masionic Rings worn on right hand.

  by WildSteve in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  did anybody see august 2018 broadcasting yet?

  masionic rings always worn on the right hand little finger, these are gatekeep rings.. brother let shows his in a big way, and then the other old brother who was in prison in spain, when he tells his story they realy make a big deal on his gatekeeper masionic ring on his little finger of his right hand..

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  Exelder

  Would this 'secret' be kept from ALL the elders, Bethelites and Overseers?

  I was an elder and Bethelite and knew lots of Circuit and District Overseers (as was) and there wasn't even a whisper of such a thing.

  I don't understand the point of this thread. Are we now saying that the Borg is now run by the Masons?

  Why not say that the Pope is also in on it as well and it is all the same organisation just with different names.

  PS. Have you ever been a JW before WildSteve?