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  Beautiful Photo - Anyone Know Where it Was Taken?

  by The Fall Guy in

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  2. friends

  i came across this on a google-linked site and would love to know where this location is.. i'd hazard a guess it's on a greek island, but if it is, which one?.

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  Exelder

  Sorry. I can't help...BUT I wish that I was there right now. It looks stunning.
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  What JW habits do you still have?

  by Exelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since leaving the jw's after over 4 decades, i can see exactly what it is and hate everything it stands for.

  however, there are still some jw habits and traits that i can't get rid of:.

  1. i can't swear in general conversation (i'd have to be really angry).

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  LIki

  "I abhor organized religion on any level...and jw is most assuredly an organized religion.:

  I am the same. I keep saying that all religion should be banned ....THEN I think that the JW's would LOVE that and we'd be playing right into their hands ha ha

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  "Dont worry about black pudding it tastes like arse."

  ha ha That made me laugh. Glad I am not missing much lol

  
  
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  What JW habits do you still have?

  by Exelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since leaving the jw's after over 4 decades, i can see exactly what it is and hate everything it stands for.

  however, there are still some jw habits and traits that i can't get rid of:.

  1. i can't swear in general conversation (i'd have to be really angry).

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  Exelder

  Since leaving the JW's after over 4 decades, I can see exactly what it is and hate everything it stands for.

  However, there are STILL some JW habits and traits that I can't get rid of:

  1. I can't swear in general conversation (I'd have to be really angry).

  2. I would never say "God" or "Jesus Christ" as a swear word or expression of exasperation.

  3. I have never had and never will have black pudding or hung game (I never thought I would ever have a blood transfusion if needed....but think that I probably would now).

  4. I'd never watch a supernatural horror film (Exorcist, \Paranormal Activity etc)

  5. I would never dabble in tarot cards, seances or anything to do with supernatural.

  6. I still subconsciously dismiss things about evolution, cavemen or the big bang theory, despite me being 99% sure God doesn't exist.

  7. I can't hear religeous people on the radio or TV without thinking "that is not what the bible says" or "what a load of rubbish" and subconsciously tear their argument apart.

  Am I alone or does anybody else carry some of these or similar habits with them too?
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  Suicides

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been on the phone the last to two weeks calling people i've known over the last forty years most of who are still jehovah's witnesses.

  some of these people who didn't know i was "out" talked to me and some who knew i was "out" still talked to me.

  some of the those people are even elders.. by book new boy will be dedicated to all the people who have killed themselves because of being a jehovah's witness or knowing others who were jehovah's witnesses.

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  Exelder

  I was almost a lifer and was an elder for many years before I made the very difficult decision to leave. It took me a lot of time and courage to do so. I am sure that I would have been the last person to leave on many peoples list.

  If I chose to ignore the constant counsel shoved down our throats at meetings and conventions and gave you the dignity that you deserved by speaking to you ...and then you betrayed ME by posting my name on the Internet, I would honestly want to rip your head off.

  You have no right to do that and your rage against the borg is blinding you to see that what you have done is based on revenge and is not rational.

  If your book is anything like your posts, it will just be the angry rsntings of a bitter old ex JW. It won't have any credibility and put across a coherent, measured argument for your cause..

  You claim that you are speaking for the people who died. You have no idea what their mental state was or what other factors could have contributed to their death (history of mental illness, depression etc.)

  Yes the org would have been a huge contributing force, but some people are so emotionally and mentally fragile that they could kill themselves jusr for having a row with a girlfriend or some other event that most people could deal with. You are just intent on destroying the organisation (a worthy cause but this is not the way to do it).

  It is just a one sided hate fest and will have no credibility to critics OR people seeking to leave.

  If you REALLY cared....do some proper research and don't just make it a roll call of names of people who have killed themselves, just because you assume it was because they were trapped in, or damaged by the 'truth'.

  Why not get the ultimate revenge on these people you seem to hate so much (the ones who shunned you etc) and just get on with your life and be happy.

  As you said, you have had most of your life sucked out of you. Don't devote another minute to the organisation. Start living the life you have left.

  I am well past my prime and could be extremely bitter.....no family, education or job prospects. No pension pot etc....BUT I won't let them beat me. I have my life back and intend on making the most of it.

  You are still letting them eat away at your life and steal what time you have left.
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  Suicides

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been on the phone the last to two weeks calling people i've known over the last forty years most of who are still jehovah's witnesses.

  some of these people who didn't know i was "out" talked to me and some who knew i was "out" still talked to me.

  some of the those people are even elders.. by book new boy will be dedicated to all the people who have killed themselves because of being a jehovah's witness or knowing others who were jehovah's witnesses.

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  Exelder

  "You are outting the ones who were nice to you - isn't that backwards?"
  

  
  

  Exactly. They might be starting to have doubts (lifers or not) and have sympathy for your viewpoint then you betray them like this.

  
  

  "No vendetta here just a time for the bull shit that has destroyed thousands of peoples lives to end

  My book is going to piss off eight million people. Let the chips fall were they may.

  I hope the chips fall hard."

  
  

  It will just look like another ranty, angry book from a bitter ex-member. It won't change a thing.

  
  

  Look....we have all got reason to be angry. I have lost my whole family. I haven't even seen my grandchild, but there is a difference between exposing their shunning and other crimes with a well balanced argument than a book that is simply out to get them and bring people down.

  
  

  Just look at the books being written about Trump by ex-employee's and aides. The more the 'angry, bitter' books come out, the stronger he gets to his followers (Ironically the huge bible belt in mid America).
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  Suicides

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been on the phone the last to two weeks calling people i've known over the last forty years most of who are still jehovah's witnesses.

  some of these people who didn't know i was "out" talked to me and some who knew i was "out" still talked to me.

  some of the those people are even elders.. by book new boy will be dedicated to all the people who have killed themselves because of being a jehovah's witness or knowing others who were jehovah's witnesses.

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  Exelder

  Your book sounds like it is going to be biased and based on vendetta rather than a well-reasoned, balanced argument for exposing the truth.

  It sounds too bittter and twisted for me.
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  Suicides

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been on the phone the last to two weeks calling people i've known over the last forty years most of who are still jehovah's witnesses.

  some of these people who didn't know i was "out" talked to me and some who knew i was "out" still talked to me.

  some of the those people are even elders.. by book new boy will be dedicated to all the people who have killed themselves because of being a jehovah's witness or knowing others who were jehovah's witnesses.

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  Exelder

  I'd tell you nothing New Boy.

  I don't see the point in exposing the people who talked to you.

  That is just not right. You really could be causing a lot of trouble for some of these people.....some who might be on the verge of seeing things how they really are and re-evaluing their situation and might be making the decision to leave.

  It is their choice.

  You should not be 'outing' them.
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  Funny ex-jw memes

  by Apostate Anonymous in

  1. social
  2. humour

  backstory:.

  so my born-in cousin who recently left the org is looking to start an ex-jw / group instagram based in socal.

  he asked me if i had any ideas for a photo that can used for the instagram page and this is what i made for him:.

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  Exelder

  These are brilliant and very clever.

  Love them lol
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  How many JDubs would believe this ridiculous statement?

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a circuit overseer or a member of the gibbering body is giving a talk about demonism and he says the following, "there was an elder in a congregation in california who let his 8-year-old daughter watch disney movies that involved witches, gremlins, magic, and sorcery.

  many may feel that they are harmless movies and are just entertainment.

  well, the 8-year-old daughter actually brought a blue smurf doll to the public talk and watchtower study.

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  Exelder

  ha ha

  I have never actually heard the Smurf story or any issues with Smurfs. Perhaps it never reached us here in the UK.

  We ALWAYS heard horror stories about people buying stuff from second hand stores.....suits and scarfs trying to strangle and squeeze people to death and toy building blocks reassembling themselves to make scary messages.

  I used to be terrified of ELO's "Mr Blue Sky" because it contained the 'Satanic Death' march at the end the song and was riddled with backward messages.(except it wasn't of course)

  And does anybody remember the story where John Denver supposedly made an announcement at the beginning of one of his concerts where he asked if there was any JW's in the audience, and if so, they were told to leave.

  JW's LOVE stories like this.
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  Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?

  (not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?

  please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.

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  Exelder

  "It is to show to the many silent observers who have left the cult that the dogma of evangelical christianity is as ridiculous as the Watchtower. It may save some a few wasted years looking for an alternative 'truth'."

  Cofty it will take them YEARS to plough their way through this thread LOL.
  

  it is just like religous cerebral tennis. back and forth, back and forth

  Neither of you will change your mind or be convinced by the others argument.

  But you both seem to be enjoying yourselves so I will let you get on with it.