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  The awful treatment of my disfellowshipped cousin still continues

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my cousin was disfellowshipped twenty years ago when he was 18 years old.

  he admitted to the congregation elders that he was fornicating with his ''wordly'' girlfriend.

  the elders were following him and hiding in their cars to see what he was up to.

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  There is no hell.

  This sort of moronic ranting about burning in hell and gleefully watching people getting punished is everything that is wrong with religious zealots and their like.

  It sounds as insane as the org themselves.
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  Unspeakable arrogance - As Usual

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  today's wt para 1. if you are a young person, you have likely received much advice about your future.

  teachers, guidance counselors, or others may have encouraged you to pursue higher education and a lucrative career.

  jehovah, however, advises you to take a different course.

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  Exelder

  My biggest regret ...not being able to go to university.

  Also teachers BEGGEd me to allow my children to pursue a further education but I said no based on what I was taught and believed at the time.

  I feel so bitter and angry now.

  My only skill now?

  I am only good at cleaning windows.

  They have a lot to answer for.
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  Live streaming of BBC expose' being blocked on the internet.

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. social
  2. current

  it looks like someone doesn't want this video to be shown.

  the stream was allowed to show what can be seen here, but was then abruptly halted.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jck_qmj7qe&feature=youtu.be.

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  I don't like his message or the racist undertones BUT the more they try to suppress him and censor him the bigger and more angrier his following will get.

  They are growing, getting more vocal, more powerful and much more demonstrative than the main stream party supporters.

  They would be better to give him an equal platform for proper debate so people can make up their own minds about what he has to say.

  As the quote goes, "I hate what you have to say, but I defend to the death your right to say it".
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  Disfellowshipped & Returning

  by tartan4588 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am disfellowshipped and have been going back for well over a year now but because its not my 1st time it will be a bit longer before i will write my letter, would really love to find others in my area who are in the same situation as some many know its very isolating, not mixing with worldly people and not being allowed to be with family and friends can take its toll on a person, just wondering if there is anyone in perth wa that would like to get together for a coffee, movie ect .

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  Exelder

  You obviously have your own reasons why you are putting yourself though this (family relatives still witnesses etc) but to be honest, if you are on THIS site and you want to meet up with fellow disfellowshipped people then your heart really isn't in it AND there is no way they would reinstate you if they knew.

  Think very seriously about your reasons for going back and putting yourself through this charade (TWICE!).

  Is this double life really the one that you want to live?

  If you truly believed it all and wanted to do everything the JW way I would let you get on with it, but you obviously don't want to be fully committed to their teachings.

  Right now you are free. Do a list of pros and cons and see if you really want to go through this again.

  You will be back in no mans land again. Not truly belonging there with them or with the rest of civilisation on the outside of the org.

  IF you truly believed what they taught, you would know that come 'armageddon' you would be killed anyway and would not have 'holy spirit". I don't know why you would voluntarily want to make this half-baked return to go back.

  I am not judging....but trying to give you a virtual shake and get you to look at what you are doing.
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  Never in my wildest dream would I ever see one of those dog gone carts

  by Tameria2001 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i moved to where i'm currently living for 10 years now.

  once in a while, i would have jws come to my door and every single time either i or my husband would send them on their merry way, although my husband is quite rude about it.

  i'm not sure when the cart witnessing (or whatever it is called) started up, but the only time i ever heard about it was on the internet, or someone here talking about it.

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  That video was nauseating. A bit of sick actually popped up in my mouth.
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  Never in my wildest dream would I ever see one of those dog gone carts

  by Tameria2001 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i moved to where i'm currently living for 10 years now.

  once in a while, i would have jws come to my door and every single time either i or my husband would send them on their merry way, although my husband is quite rude about it.

  i'm not sure when the cart witnessing (or whatever it is called) started up, but the only time i ever heard about it was on the internet, or someone here talking about it.

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  To me, it shows that they (the ones on the cart) really don't believe armageddon is coming any time soon.

  If they truly believed it how could they just stand there passively knowing that nearly all of the people walking passed them are going to be killed within the foreseeable future. Surely they should be trying harder and not hiding behind a cart looking at their phones or drinking coffee.

  At best is shows a complacence and at worst it is sheer arrogance and shows that they absolutely do not care about people at all.

  IF this is supposed to be Gods way of warning people that he is going to bring destruction on the planet, it is a despicable, lazy way of doing it.

  "Jehovah' is no better. He would know (if he was real) that people are more cynical than ever and already have information overload. Does he REALLY think that people invisiblly hiding behind a cart is the most effective way of saving lives?

  They make me sick with their piousness.
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  Great Announcement

  by Tiana in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  am a newcomer.

  had a starnge metting in local news last night.. check it out.

  actual info starts at 50;12. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plxdjs13l0k.

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  Exelder

  I can't watch these.

  Although I dismiss it all, the same old 'what if they are right?" feelings sneak in after I hear their scaremongering. It churns up the same panic and fear as I used to feel.

  That is what being five decades as a JW does to you before you finally escape.
  
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  JW jailed for £8million investment fraud - UK

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://m.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/14276665.victims__brainwashed__in___8m_investment_scam/he told investors that his status as a jehovah’s witness meant he was unable to break the law, in an effort to win their trust.. teesside crown court heard how many of the 350 victims were elderly and had been deliberately targeted.some had since died with the stress of the county durham-based fraud having contributed to their ill health, and others had lost homes and life savings.a third man the crown said was involved, anthony kemp, is currently serving a prison sentence in new zealand for a separate but similar fraud, but is expected to be extradited back to the uk to stand trial when he is released.. .

  full aricle at link.

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  Exelder

  Kemp (Tony) was always dodgy.

  Neighbours used to report him for working on his car and doing other manual jobs while claiming thousands on benefits for years.

  He used to arrive at the KH wearing a neck collar and in a wheelchair or with crutches but then would be sailing or mountaineering on the weekend.

  He eventually abandoned his family. Went away for a 'few days' and never came back. They did not have a clue where he was and his wife and son (who was a bit autistic) had to live in a travellodge for months with no money or food (no practical help from congregation of course!!!)

  Young Wheeler....He used to run a sun bed business. There were rumours about him but nothing concrete. He was always on the fringe...never quite fully in or committed to Witnesses.

  I used to hate it when people used to use the "I am a JW and could never commit a crime" when they got caught. But now I think it is funny. A local postman used the same excuse when they found hundred of opened birthday cards in his locker (he had been opening them and stealing the money inside).
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  What was the last thing you said to your jw family?

  by caves in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  7 years ago i had my last conversation with the toxic jw that mostly raised me.

  every conversation was toxic for my entire adult life with her.

  the last time we spoke was right before the memorial 7 years ago and she was laying on the usual heavy guilt and fear mongering about how jeho counts his people at the memorial.

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  I left my elderly mother crying and begging that "I return to Jehovah" because Armageddon is so real to her and she honestly thinks I am going to die. It was heartbreaking and pathetic (in the truest sense of the word) at the same time.

  I never got a chance to have any last words with my wife or children. They refused to answer any phone calls or messages.

  As a born-in I walked away without a single friend in the world and was scared witless at what was going to become of me.

  I now have made new fiends ...kinder, genuine friends that are much better than than the ones 'in the truth' and they are all given strict instructions never ever to inform any of my blood JW members if anything happens to me. They have lost the right to know anything about me now.
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  Suicides

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been on the phone the last to two weeks calling people i've known over the last forty years most of who are still jehovah's witnesses.

  some of these people who didn't know i was "out" talked to me and some who knew i was "out" still talked to me.

  some of the those people are even elders.. by book new boy will be dedicated to all the people who have killed themselves because of being a jehovah's witness or knowing others who were jehovah's witnesses.

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  Exelder

  "I'm sure in the end we all really what the same thing don't we? "

  Absolutely Keith.
  

  Like I said in my earlier post, I admire, your determination and dedication (I meant it sincerely).

  I hadn't read your other excepts, and so I did as others suggested and did some research, and saw what you are doing. I can see why so many people respect your work. It was just THIS thread of naming names that I didn't feel comfortable with.

  I wish you a lot of success with your book and hope it makes a difference to peoples lives and exposes the JW religion for what it is.