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  March 2018 Study Watchtower

  by Listener in

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  the first study article is about getting bible studies and children baptized.

  there is much more emphasis placed on parents to get their own children baptized rather than focusing on bible students.

  they try to impress on others the need for urgency.

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  pomo6780

  Excellent post. I'll check out that article.

  Just a minor clarification, I think jws believe that "accurate knowledge" exists even within the basic teachings. As long as you believe it, they've got you.
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  Stop harassing jws

  by pomo6780 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we want people to learn ttatt.

  we have numerous resources online to draw jws in so that they will wake up.

  however, i've noted some radical methods that have been used by fellow exjws, and quite frankly, this must stop.

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  pomo6780

  Anyway punkofnice,

  Let's make up. You've got good guts. Not that I've ever performed an operation on your guts!
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  Stop harassing jws

  by pomo6780 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we want people to learn ttatt.

  we have numerous resources online to draw jws in so that they will wake up.

  however, i've noted some radical methods that have been used by fellow exjws, and quite frankly, this must stop.

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  pomo6780

  "Not by the looks of the replies. I think you're quite rude."

  I wonder if the 25 + replies from others accurately represents the majority of users on here? Not to be sarcastic, but that was a useless reply...
  
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  Stop harassing jws

  by pomo6780 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we want people to learn ttatt.

  we have numerous resources online to draw jws in so that they will wake up.

  however, i've noted some radical methods that have been used by fellow exjws, and quite frankly, this must stop.

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  pomo6780

  I understand where you are coming from with some of this, but...

  It's not normal for a total stranger to confront a person for their religious beliefs and use emotional tactics to win them over. A strange man speaking to a woman in the street could frighten her view of strangers. It has happened

  Isn't this exactly what JW's do in the preaching work ??? "

  ... in response, read my previous comments. You're right, but my point was confrontation... jws aren't trained to confront. They are wimps.
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  Stop harassing jws

  by pomo6780 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we want people to learn ttatt.

  we have numerous resources online to draw jws in so that they will wake up.

  however, i've noted some radical methods that have been used by fellow exjws, and quite frankly, this must stop.

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  pomo6780

  Punkofnice,

  I thought you said you'd keep your gob shut?

  Rudeness is relative. The words on a screen cannot be heard accurately by the reader. If I'm rude, it's because you've got a guilty conscience for some reason or perhaps are too sensitive. Don't take my comments too seriously, it wasn't directed at any individual... so please don't victimise yourself. This is the Internet, a place where ideas vary greatly, you'll never read anything non controversial.
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  Stop harassing jws

  by pomo6780 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we want people to learn ttatt.

  we have numerous resources online to draw jws in so that they will wake up.

  however, i've noted some radical methods that have been used by fellow exjws, and quite frankly, this must stop.

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  pomo6780

  Another concern that may arise is this.

  Perhaps your children grow up and have their own families. They are not jws. 10 - 15 years down the line, one of them comes forward and accuses you of coercion with regards stopping them from attending meetings or monitoring their activity on their phones, and also neglect with regards sexual matters (helping them as they reach puberty, to understand what is happening to their bodies). Neither of you are jw. However, your views have been influenced by the Borg and also after leaving the jws. How will you reconcile in your mind how your behaviour could harm your children whilst raising them, who may never become jws anyway? I've met some exjws who have children not in the org because they hate how their exjw parent treated them. Some of those people I know have shunned both their parents and become atheists.

  I don't want to upset anyone here. I apologize for this post. I had to let this out however, because sometimes the problem is a combination of the organization and our leaving it that negatively affects others. Just a thought for everyone here.
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  Stop harassing jws

  by pomo6780 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we want people to learn ttatt.

  we have numerous resources online to draw jws in so that they will wake up.

  however, i've noted some radical methods that have been used by fellow exjws, and quite frankly, this must stop.

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  pomo6780

  Venus - I totally agree with you.
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  Stop harassing jws

  by pomo6780 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we want people to learn ttatt.

  we have numerous resources online to draw jws in so that they will wake up.

  however, i've noted some radical methods that have been used by fellow exjws, and quite frankly, this must stop.

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  pomo6780

  Punkofnice,

  "Would I be right in saying that the main thrust of your post is, to use a metaphor, you catch a wasp with sugar not vinegar?"

  In response to that, you can interpret my intention of posting however you wish. It's quite clear that I've specifically condemned the over the top methods. Conversing with them in a calm way is no problem in my mind. As for children, the same should be done for them. Plant seeds, not trees.

  This is going to be a very debatable subject. Expect lots of comments.

  I know, I anticipated this beforehand. And at the end of the day it doesn't matter, because whatever anyone posts is visible in the public domain. You are what you comment.

  I'm keeping my gob shut on this one

  Self restraint is a noble course if you are set in your ways. So be it, however. Please know this, I speak for the heart of this community.
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  Stop harassing jws

  by pomo6780 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we want people to learn ttatt.

  we have numerous resources online to draw jws in so that they will wake up.

  however, i've noted some radical methods that have been used by fellow exjws, and quite frankly, this must stop.

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  pomo6780

  Humanity is lost when people attack others for no reason. Complete strangers confronting others is not normal. Complete strangers approaching, yes. There is a difference. I do not agree with being angry or causing a scene at a jw cart. You could in the UK be causing an offence to Public Order. I did research officially and yes, the police in the UK would view it as an offence. Also recording others without their consent and posting online with the intent of harming their reputation is an offence. It is a violation of privacy. You may have a right to film in public, but no right to use videos without a specific person's consent.

  To all irate and abusive exjws. Don't you go round giving this community a bad name. We're here to educate and support damaged people. We don't want you here if you carry on misrepresenting us as a community. Sorry to sound jw in this way.
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  Stop harassing jws

  by pomo6780 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we want people to learn ttatt.

  we have numerous resources online to draw jws in so that they will wake up.

  however, i've noted some radical methods that have been used by fellow exjws, and quite frankly, this must stop.

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  pomo6780

  To clarify. This post was not for those here who are trying to reason around what I said, which they are entitled to do. Everyone differs in opinion.

  What the point of this post is this: When you harrass jws, cult that damages people, why the hell damage them in return? That's like pulling a child out of an abusive household and once you'e adopted that child, you remind him of his abuse. Does that make sense?

  And on children, I fully agree that children are children and are not yet developed properly. But oh my, could I go on. Children aren't stupid. I literally remember seeing hypocrisy and connected the dots. They may be developing, but the human brain develops at different rates per human. I think it's fair to say we'd never want to see our children become jws at any age. I think the cruel thing is making them believe they have to wait til the age of consent until they can join a religion, then when you get to that point you still express your disapproval and try to keep them living with you for as long as possible. Let them grow up as their own people I say.

  A double post? How has this harassed or upset anyone here? I was condemning abusive and manipulative exjws. Anyone offended are either abusers themselves or sympathisers. There are many here who are against this like I am as some comments have shown.

  Nevertheless, I am not angry. In Spock's own words, "Emotion... highly illogical".