we want people to learn ttatt.
we have numerous resources online to draw jws in so that they will wake up.
however, i've noted some radical methods that have been used by fellow exjws, and quite frankly, this must stop.
"Now you mention it.....I've had a few operations in my time. One on my guts, oddly enough. Unless you're that Chinese surgeon I had.......you might have, you might have."
I think I was assisting at the time of the op. I apologise for the slip of the finger, I have tiny fingers. I donated your organs to the WTBTS to feature in a was it designed article. Received a polite reply thanking me for the guts, but at the moment they're working on the amazing slime trail of a snail...
the first study article is about getting bible studies and children baptized.
there is much more emphasis placed on parents to get their own children baptized rather than focusing on bible students.
they try to impress on others the need for urgency.
Excellent post. I'll check out that article.
Just a minor clarification, I think jws believe that "accurate knowledge" exists even within the basic teachings. As long as you believe it, they've got you.
we want people to learn ttatt.
we have numerous resources online to draw jws in so that they will wake up.
however, i've noted some radical methods that have been used by fellow exjws, and quite frankly, this must stop.
Anyway punkofnice,
Let's make up. You've got good guts. Not that I've ever performed an operation on your guts!
we want people to learn ttatt.
we have numerous resources online to draw jws in so that they will wake up.
however, i've noted some radical methods that have been used by fellow exjws, and quite frankly, this must stop.
"Not by the looks of the replies. I think you're quite rude."
I wonder if the 25 + replies from others accurately represents the majority of users on here? Not to be sarcastic, but that was a useless reply...
we want people to learn ttatt.
we have numerous resources online to draw jws in so that they will wake up.
however, i've noted some radical methods that have been used by fellow exjws, and quite frankly, this must stop.
I understand where you are coming from with some of this, but...
It's not normal for a total stranger to confront a person for their religious beliefs and use emotional tactics to win them over. A strange man speaking to a woman in the street could frighten her view of strangers. It has happened
Isn't this exactly what JW's do in the preaching work ??? "
... in response, read my previous comments. You're right, but my point was confrontation... jws aren't trained to confront. They are wimps.
we want people to learn ttatt.
we have numerous resources online to draw jws in so that they will wake up.
however, i've noted some radical methods that have been used by fellow exjws, and quite frankly, this must stop.
Punkofnice,
I thought you said you'd keep your gob shut?
Rudeness is relative. The words on a screen cannot be heard accurately by the reader. If I'm rude, it's because you've got a guilty conscience for some reason or perhaps are too sensitive. Don't take my comments too seriously, it wasn't directed at any individual... so please don't victimise yourself. This is the Internet, a place where ideas vary greatly, you'll never read anything non controversial.
we want people to learn ttatt.
we have numerous resources online to draw jws in so that they will wake up.
however, i've noted some radical methods that have been used by fellow exjws, and quite frankly, this must stop.
Another concern that may arise is this.
Perhaps your children grow up and have their own families. They are not jws. 10 - 15 years down the line, one of them comes forward and accuses you of coercion with regards stopping them from attending meetings or monitoring their activity on their phones, and also neglect with regards sexual matters (helping them as they reach puberty, to understand what is happening to their bodies). Neither of you are jw. However, your views have been influenced by the Borg and also after leaving the jws. How will you reconcile in your mind how your behaviour could harm your children whilst raising them, who may never become jws anyway? I've met some exjws who have children not in the org because they hate how their exjw parent treated them. Some of those people I know have shunned both their parents and become atheists.
I don't want to upset anyone here. I apologize for this post. I had to let this out however, because sometimes the problem is a combination of the organization and our leaving it that negatively affects others. Just a thought for everyone here.
we want people to learn ttatt.
we have numerous resources online to draw jws in so that they will wake up.
however, i've noted some radical methods that have been used by fellow exjws, and quite frankly, this must stop.
Venus - I totally agree with you.
we want people to learn ttatt.
we have numerous resources online to draw jws in so that they will wake up.
however, i've noted some radical methods that have been used by fellow exjws, and quite frankly, this must stop.
Punkofnice,
"Would I be right in saying that the main thrust of your post is, to use a metaphor, you catch a wasp with sugar not vinegar?"
In response to that, you can interpret my intention of posting however you wish. It's quite clear that I've specifically condemned the over the top methods. Conversing with them in a calm way is no problem in my mind. As for children, the same should be done for them. Plant seeds, not trees.
This is going to be a very debatable subject. Expect lots of comments.
I know, I anticipated this beforehand. And at the end of the day it doesn't matter, because whatever anyone posts is visible in the public domain. You are what you comment.
I'm keeping my gob shut on this one
Self restraint is a noble course if you are set in your ways. So be it, however. Please know this, I speak for the heart of this community.
we want people to learn ttatt.
we have numerous resources online to draw jws in so that they will wake up.
however, i've noted some radical methods that have been used by fellow exjws, and quite frankly, this must stop.
Humanity is lost when people attack others for no reason. Complete strangers confronting others is not normal. Complete strangers approaching, yes. There is a difference. I do not agree with being angry or causing a scene at a jw cart. You could in the UK be causing an offence to Public Order. I did research officially and yes, the police in the UK would view it as an offence. Also recording others without their consent and posting online with the intent of harming their reputation is an offence. It is a violation of privacy. You may have a right to film in public, but no right to use videos without a specific person's consent.
To all irate and abusive exjws. Don't you go round giving this community a bad name. We're here to educate and support damaged people. We don't want you here if you carry on misrepresenting us as a community. Sorry to sound jw in this way.
