Posts by pomo6780

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Whole families leaving the Org has increased

by pomo6780 in

i have noticed in the uk a few families i used to know while in the borg have exited together.

some include former elders and ministerial servants.

i observed on social media pages that the kids have 'worldly' boyfriends and girlfriends and they look so much happier than they did in the org.

pomo6780

Stan Livedeath,

No, although I have exited for a while, I can't reveal the areas for reasons of lurking still in family or old friends.

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The Judge on Trial: Uncovering the Real J F Rutherford [Part 1]

by pomo6780 in

enough rhetoric for now, here is my promised first part to my series.. for the benefit of lurkers, i'm using mainly wt publications as my research to show this information isn't 'apostate'.

part 1: association with russell and the bible students.

i want to ask an honest question.

pomo6780

Still Totally ADD,

Thank you for your contribution to this topic. It's good to read a genuine experience!

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The Judge on Trial: Uncovering the Real J F Rutherford [Part 1]

by pomo6780 in

enough rhetoric for now, here is my promised first part to my series.. for the benefit of lurkers, i'm using mainly wt publications as my research to show this information isn't 'apostate'.

part 1: association with russell and the bible students.

i want to ask an honest question.

Thank you. The best approach for lurkers is bringing all the facts together in a non judgmental way. I've seen some speculation about things Rutherford did, which I've avoided mentioning as I currently have no sufficient evidence.

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Whole families leaving the Org has increased

by pomo6780 in

i have noticed in the uk a few families i used to know while in the borg have exited together.

some include former elders and ministerial servants.

i observed on social media pages that the kids have 'worldly' boyfriends and girlfriends and they look so much happier than they did in the org.

pomo6780

I have noticed in the UK a few families I used to know while in the Borg have exited together. Some include former elders and ministerial servants. I observed on social media pages that the kids have 'worldly' boyfriends and girlfriends and they look so much happier than they did in the Org. In fact, they look healthier and more vibrant. I think the main reason for leaving is that the kids have introduced their parents to their friends not in the org and the parents wake up after seeing the world isn't bad after all. I'm really happy for them that they have escaped this cult!

Have you seen whole families leave? If so, for what reasons?

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The Seven Trumpets

by Jehovah lol in

is it still watchtower dogma that the seven trumpets of revelation refer to seven conventions in the 1920s?

would many jws these days even be aware of this?

i find it so amusing that seven little conventions in the distant past, almost a century ago, could be equated with such an iconic biblical passage.

pomo6780

My guess is this very soon. New light:

"The 7 trumpet blasts no longer represent the declarations from the 7 conventions. They are 7 angelic commands. Which commands? Brothers, what do the angels do? What have they done and what will they do? (After a long 2 part Watchtower on what angels have done from year dot to the future, here are the revised understandings.)

The trumpet blasts began at the beginning of the Last days and will end after the Millennium.

1- The first 4 angels that blew their trumpets represents the announcement of annihilation during the Great War that began in 1914

2- The fifth angel that blew his trumpet represents the announcement of the army of Witnesses during the dark days of World War 2. (Not a porn scene, with use of the word shaft and abyss)

3- The sixth trumpet blasts represents the angelic command to begin the Great Tribulation, to torment God's enemies with a judgment message until their ultimate destruction at Armageddon.

4 - The seventh and final trumpet blast is the declaration that God's Kingdom is here to stay. What follows is Armageddon, the resurrection and the Millennium.

If you were scared rereading the verses according to those understandings, believe me, that is most certainly something jws would be willing to accept. I think there's going to be a watered down version of the Revelation Climax book very soon. Since they're devoting a whole year to studying the gospels, that's giving them enough time to prepare a new book for reference once they touch on Revelation again in a year or two at their midweek meeting. See if what I say is correct.

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“...in the name of our Lord Jesus” explanation please?

by Jules Saturn in

i am looking for someone to please clear this up.

there are scriptures like in the 1 corinthians chapter 5 that refer to jesus as “our lord jesus”.

the lord is jehovah, why does that scripture in 1 corinthians refer to the lord as jesus?

pomo6780

People trying to explain the Trinity using the Bible are using the same cult methods as when jws use the Bible to explain the Paradise. Both teachings don't exist there, they're what I call cultural interpretations. If you aren't jw, you believe a range of variations of the trinity doctrine. As an example: Catholics say that The Son is not The Father, The Father is not The Son... etc. But the Father is God, the Son is God and the Holy Spirit is God. Yet there are not 3 gods but one God." A variation is this: The Son is not the same as the Father, etc etc. But the Son is God, The Father is God... they are all divine. There have been more interpretations I've heard. Even as an exjw I've challenged Trinitarians by asking them why they hold on to a teaching that was publicly recognised as a Christian doctrine by a Romans Emperor during a political meeting when thereafter those who refused to believe it were executed? I've messed with a few minds and have made atheists out of a few Trinitarians. I managed to disband a small evangelical group by telling them why they are a cult, just like jws.

That being said, I can't be bothered trying to explain something that isn't real.

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Do JW's Still Shout "Aye!" at Assemblies?

by snugglebunny in

got my curious head on again.... i recall shouting "aye!

" in 1958 and again in 1963 and 1969. in the '63 resolution the wt put the un on notice in an assembly resolution worded something like "the nations further refused the surrender of their sovereignty to god's messianic kingdom by setting up ... the united nations, ... this international organization stands for world sovereignty by political men.

for years men without faith in god's kingdom have endeavored to get all people to worship this international image of human political sovereignty as the best hope for earthly peace and security, in fact, the last hope for humanity.

pomo6780

Reminded me of a Scottish guy agreeing with someone.

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The Seven Trumpets

by Jehovah lol in

is it still watchtower dogma that the seven trumpets of revelation refer to seven conventions in the 1920s?

would many jws these days even be aware of this?

i find it so amusing that seven little conventions in the distant past, almost a century ago, could be equated with such an iconic biblical passage.

pomo6780

As far as I know, they believe the fulfilment is ongoing until the Great Tribulation. Which is another mind cramp as to how they believe that.

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Bible Student Movements + surprise announcement from me

by pomo6780 in

hello to all pomos, pimos and lurkers!

i would firstly like to introduce myself, as i should have done in my initial post.

i will remain anonymous for this website.

pomo6780

Ps. Those who keep commenting on here are very reminiscent of stalkers in real life. My type of apostates.

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Bible Student Movements + surprise announcement from me

by pomo6780 in

hello to all pomos, pimos and lurkers!

i would firstly like to introduce myself, as i should have done in my initial post.

i will remain anonymous for this website.

pomo6780

You can dislike my comments all you like. What's happening here is a clash of personalities. We are both anonymous and only rely on what information is visible on our screen. You're only reacting how I would if I were you right now.