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  Preparing for Governing Body 3.0? Making older GB step down? (New September Watchtower)

  by FusionTheism in

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  watchtower, study edition, september 2015, "are you reaching the stature that belongs to christ?":.

  paragraph 6: the mature christian shows humility in that he recognizes that jehovahs ways and standards are always better than his own.

  [footnote: for example, older, experienced brothers may be asked to step aside from certain responsibilities and to lend support to younger brothers as they take on those responsibilities.].

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  "he recognizes that Jehovah’s ways and standards are always better than his own"

  Where in Jehovah's "ways and standards" does it ever encourage older men to give up their responsibility???

  Deuteronomy 31:1,2: Then Moses went out and spoke these words to all Israel, saying to them: "I am 120 years old today. I can no longer lead you for Jehovah has said to me, 'You will not cross this Jordan.'

  Deuteronomy 34:7: Moses was 120 years old at his death. His eyes had not grown dim, and his strength had not departed.

  So Moses was only losing his position because of death. In fact he was vibrant and active at 120 years old.

  Why doesn't this accurately reflect "Jehovah's ways and standards"?

  Once again, we are told what Jehovah's ways and standards are, but nowhere does the Bible reflect those ways and standards for the Christian Congregation.
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  Looking for ideas.

  by Driving Force in

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  i received an email from one of the elder in the local congregation.

  i am not dfed so there is not a problem there, i am just an aggressive fader.. one of the last things i said to this elder before i stopped all activities was that i do not agree with the borg taking all the assets from the congregations.. here is what the elder said in the email:.

  "i recently saw something while looking through the jw broadcasting for the month of may and i though about you.

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  Driving Force

  I suppose he thought the video would be encouraging to you. It shows how he just doesn't see things the way you do. No doubt he sincerely believes you would find the video encouraging instead of as if the Organization is soliciting.

  I looked up the word "solicit" and found this definition from Merriam Webster:

  : to ask for (something, such as money or help) from people, companies, etc.

  : to ask (a person or group) for money, help, etc.

  How is what Lett is doing not meeting that definition? Ask him, "What am I missing here?"
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  G Losch: child baptised at 5, reg pioneer since!

  by fifth.column in

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  at the end of april, there was a zone visit in france, with tv broadcast in all kh.. g. losch told he received a letter from a girl, 10 years old, baptised at 5, reg pioneer since 4 years !

  what a fine example, he said....... let s imagine the faces of the parents in the kh!

  i was happy to see i was not the only one to find it crazy.. if you have a child, you know how mature he is at 5. how can a child preach 2.5hours/day after 7hours of school and homework to do??

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  Requirements are that you have to be baptized to qualify as a pioneer. How can one Pioneer @ age 4 then baptized @ age 5?
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  Geoffrey Jackson Bio!

  by elkatire1980 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the watchtower august 15 in the topic: "let the many islands rejoice" appears the following paragraph: .

  then, however, it came time for a serious decision.

  would i accept a scholarship to go to university?

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  There is no doubt much that can be said negatively much of it justified. On the other hand there are things in the story that might lead one to believe he is sincere but blinded. The one hour each day for 20 years to produce a language book, he and his wife living with a native family because there was no where else to live would not have been easy. Yes, it's "Free" living off of others but certainly not luxurious by any means!
  
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  Rumor about the Imitate Jesus Convention

  by FusionTheism in

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  2. bible

  i saw a rumor a few weeks ago on reddit that the new imitate jesus convention is supposed to present new light and clarified understandings on the disfellowshipping/disassociation practices.. supposedly, if this rumor has any truth to it, there will be a talk given at the convention about how we should not be strict like the pharisees in how we shun people, loosening up some of the jw rules about this practice.. has anyone here heard anything about this or have more info on it?.

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  We should know soon. They have just updated the JW App so that the convention releases can be downloaded. I just did the update and haven't seen a way to download them yet but on the Update information it mentions Convention Releases. This is on an IPhone 5, no update available yet for my IPad.
  
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  How do you feel about the Red Letters?

  by zophar in

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  curious as to how you feel about the actual words ascribed to jesus in a red letter edition translation bible like niv on biblegateway.com?.

  do you feel these teachings are inspired and or beneficial to a productive life?

  it seems to me that the actual words of jesus contain real wisdom and show how to live a fulfilling life.

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  Galaxie

  I should have repeated myself in that 2nd paragraph. That's the problem when I let my typing do my talking!

  No problems.
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  How do you feel about the Red Letters?

  by zophar in

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  curious as to how you feel about the actual words ascribed to jesus in a red letter edition translation bible like niv on biblegateway.com?.

  do you feel these teachings are inspired and or beneficial to a productive life?

  it seems to me that the actual words of jesus contain real wisdom and show how to live a fulfilling life.

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  Galaxie

  That's why I said the words "ascribed" to Jesus earlier in the post. The words are there in a book, how does one feel about the content regardless of who spoke them?

  Certainly no intent to be presumptuous just interested in opinions of others.
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  How do you feel about the Red Letters?

  by zophar in

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  curious as to how you feel about the actual words ascribed to jesus in a red letter edition translation bible like niv on biblegateway.com?.

  do you feel these teachings are inspired and or beneficial to a productive life?

  it seems to me that the actual words of jesus contain real wisdom and show how to live a fulfilling life.

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  Curious as to how you feel about the actual words ascribed to Jesus in a red letter edition translation Bible like NIV on biblegateway.com?

  Do you feel these teachings are inspired and or beneficial to a productive life? It seems to me that the actual words of Jesus contain real wisdom and show how to live a fulfilling life.

  What do you think?

  Could close adherence to these sayings be "The Truth" and not all the rules of an organization?
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  My 4,000th post - It only took 13+ years

  by NewYork44M in

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  this is a very minor milestone - but a milestone just the same.

  i read much more than i post.

  thank you to all for your contributions.

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  Isn't it amazing? The impact of the JW way of life. Still posting after 13 years! And I completely understand that. What does that say about both of us?
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  Why doe New light tick me off???? Next 2 weeks WT Studies

  by zophar in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you have been a jw for 20+ years you may remember that the wt went into great detail on different illustrations that jesus used and the "type/anti-type" ridiculous explanations.

  remember the revelation book and how those obscure jw conventions of the past pictured big things in heaven and the opening of seals?

  anyway, the wt lessons for the next two weeks do two big things for me.

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  To LeavingQuietly.

  These lessons are going to really make me angry at the KH. I am going to have a very, very, very hard time keeping my facial expressions in check.
  You said it! This is going to be a tough one. No telling what one might comment based on what others are saying during the study. Good day to think through what you would like to say and how you say it.