Posts by zophar

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My 4,000th post - It only took 13+ years

by NewYork44M in

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this is a very minor milestone - but a milestone just the same.

i read much more than i post.

thank you to all for your contributions.

zophar

Isn't it amazing? The impact of the JW way of life. Still posting after 13 years! And I completely understand that. What does that say about both of us?

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Why doe New light tick me off???? Next 2 weeks WT Studies

by zophar in

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if you have been a jw for 20+ years you may remember that the wt went into great detail on different illustrations that jesus used and the "type/anti-type" ridiculous explanations.

remember the revelation book and how those obscure jw conventions of the past pictured big things in heaven and the opening of seals?

anyway, the wt lessons for the next two weeks do two big things for me.

These lessons are going to really make me angry at the KH. I am going to have a very, very, very hard time keeping my facial expressions in check.
You said it! This is going to be a tough one. No telling what one might comment based on what others are saying during the study. Good day to think through what you would like to say and how you say it.

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German Branch visit talk Mark Sanderson (Parents; don't hinder young children to get baptized)

by Daniel1555 in

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the video streaming of the german branch visit program was excrutiating 3.5 hours long.. i just went to see the last 45 min (part of mark sandersons talk).. i think sanderson is quite a sympathetic speaker and he kind of made a loving impression.. he didn't mention controversial stuff (except for one thing i will come to soon).

he mostly talked about how to find joy, even when life is not easy, and how much the gb loves the rank and file.. one point seemed soooo important to him.

parents and children.

zophar

As usual, Blondie is right on. While JW's don't practice infant baptism, they certainly encourage child baptism.

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Why doe New light tick me off???? Next 2 weeks WT Studies

by zophar in

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if you have been a jw for 20+ years you may remember that the wt went into great detail on different illustrations that jesus used and the "type/anti-type" ridiculous explanations.

remember the revelation book and how those obscure jw conventions of the past pictured big things in heaven and the opening of seals?

anyway, the wt lessons for the next two weeks do two big things for me.

zophar

.....by the way. The topic should be "Why Does" not Why doe....

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Why doe New light tick me off???? Next 2 weeks WT Studies

by zophar in

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friends

if you have been a jw for 20+ years you may remember that the wt went into great detail on different illustrations that jesus used and the "type/anti-type" ridiculous explanations.

remember the revelation book and how those obscure jw conventions of the past pictured big things in heaven and the opening of seals?

anyway, the wt lessons for the next two weeks do two big things for me.

zophar

If you have been a JW for 20+ years you may remember that the WT went into great detail on different illustrations that Jesus used and the "type/anti-type" ridiculous explanations. Remember the Revelation book and how those obscure JW Conventions of the past pictured big things in heaven and the opening of seals? Anyway, the WT lessons for the next two weeks do two big things for me. They show we were wrong all along about those explanations of the Bible..and Secondly....we should be happy because we our faith was really built up by those false teachings!

In par 13 tomorrows lesson mentions the parables of "the leaven", "the mustard seed," and "the dragnet." In the past, all of these pictured bad things associated with Satan. Now they all picture good things in connection with God's kingdom. I conducted the WT back in those days and I had a lot of Cognitive dissonance, the explanations sounded crazy. But....that is what the FDS was directing, so Confirmation Bias set in. I ignored all of the alarm bells and so I teach what is in the literature. Guess what? The alarm bells were right all along, none of the past explanations are right....according to the 7/15/08 WT adjustments!

Now, here is what is truly amazing. After showing how the interpretation was wrong, Paragraph 9 in tomorrow's lesson says: "For many years, God's people found this approach to Bible accounts faith strengthening." In other words, "We were wrong in our interpretations but these false understandings were still faith strengthening!

They cannot just say: "We were wrong!" No, these false teachings were still faith strengthening! How messed up is that?

So what's next? What else has "The Truth" been "The False" about? I can't stand it!

How do you feel?

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I need ideas for my hubby

by monis in

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i have been out of the org for several years.

i faded.

my husband became inactive but still believes that the jws have the truth.

zophar

Well, the WT study for tomorrow and next Sunday are excellent examples. If you have been a JW for 20+ years you may remember that the WT went into great detail on different illustrations that Jesus used.

In par 13 tomorrows lesson mentions the parables of "the leaven", "the mustard seed," and "the dragnet." In the past, all of these pictured bad things associated with Satan. Now they all picture good things in connection with God's kingdom. I conducted the WT back in those days and I had a lot of Cognitive dissonance, the explanations sounded crazy. But....that is what the FDS was directing, so Confirmation Bias sets in. I ignore all of the alarm bells and teach what is in the literature. Guess what? The alarm bells were right all along, none of the past explanations are right....according to the 7/15/08 WT adjustments!

Now, here is what is truly amazing. After showing how the interpretation was wrong, Paragraph 9 in tomorrow's lesson says: "For many years, God's people found this approach to Bible accounts faith strengthening." In other words, "We were wrong in our interpretations but these false understandings were still faith strengthening!

They cannot say: "We were wrong!" No, these false teachings were still faith strengthening! How messed up is that?

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May tv.jw.org program

by zophar in

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the may broadcast on tv.jw.org.

we need money!.

http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodstudio/pub-jwb_201505_1_video.

zophar

The May broadcast on TV.JW.org

We need money!

http://tv.jw.org/#video/VODStudio/pub-jwb_201505_1_VIDEO

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Setback

by EdenOne in

i saw this coming since my mother-in-law's funeral .... the congregation's "love-bombing" over my wife had its impact.

i watched her drawing closer and closer to her friends in the congregation.

then she decided she would attend the memorial.

zophar

So sorry for your dilemma.

It does sound like you have a good marriage in many ways and I'm happy to hear you are not seriously thinking of divorce. Hope the same is true of your thinking of suicide, you are not seriously considering it.

I notice you mention the Sister studying with your wife that she and her husband are a nice couple. That tells me you are a very balanced person. You have strong feelings against the Org, based on logic, research and study, but you can still recognize that their are nice people that are part of it. Focus on that because that is what your wife is seeing. She is going to church at the Kingdom Hall just like millions of people do in their respective religions. "The Truth" isn't as important as the social structure and her lifelong friends. I actually think that should be encouraging for you.

Don't panic or rush. Let her know how this is making you feel without accusing her of trying to be hurtful to you, just report how you "feel". I think you have a strong enough marriage that you will see good results from this.

Our goal in life should not be to change one another but to love one another.

I hope the best for you and your wife. Sorry to hear of the death of her mother.

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