Posts by TonusOH

who knows what the ramifications will be.. as a pimo who still believes in the bible and christ, i wanted to share the following fun fact about the latest study publications.

It is interesting to view their study guide from a perspective of someone long since gone. It reads like the older books and pamphlets, with an emphasis on how the Bible helps us to find what we seek and what we need, along with encouragement to read the Bible for themselves while also preparing them for the pick-and-choose manner in which the WTS uses Bible verses to make their sales pitch and reinforce their teachings.

What the prospective study doesn't know is that, once they're attending meetings regularly, the message changes in a subtle but important way-- the organization becomes the focus. You no longer are encouraged to read the Bible for yourself- you are encouraged to read the packaged portions and recognize that the organization's explanation is the correct one. You aren't reading the Bible to test what you are told. You are cofirming what you are told, if you know what's good for you.

Also, while they minimize Jesus, they constantly insist that this is not the case. Your average JW will consider it utterly ridiculous to think that they do not give Jesus the importance he deserves.

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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

by WingCommander in

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this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

this is not a joke.

anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

TonusOH

If they wipe out his video history, that would crank the rumor mill into overdrive. It's an interesting dilemma. Ray Franz had a hand in writing a lot of the content in the Aid to Bible Understanding book. Others who were removed during that purge also helped write books and articles. None of that content was removed or recalled. Since the writer's names weren't on any of the content, I guess they felt safe in leaving it alone. That's not the case with Morris.

Now that I think of it, is there anything in Insight on the Scriptures that was copied from the Aid book? I wonder how much current information was written by those who were removed for apostasy in the 1980s.

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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

this is not a joke.

anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

TonusOH

Morris can still identify himself as the Faithful and Debauched Slave, I suppose.

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Every JW Elder In State Of Pennsylvania Subpoenaed

by JW GoneBad in

breaking news!

every jehovah’s witness elder in the 67 counties of pennsylvania are being given notice by state attorney's office to turn over any & all documents relating to child sex abuse cases!

watch attached video beginning at time-stamp 101:00...pay particular attention to what is said after 103:00.this is wild!.

TonusOH

They could always violate the law in the interests of doing what is right, and trust in Jehovah to see them through it. It wouldn't be the first time they advocated taking a stand in the face of dire consequences. It might be a bit too close to home, perhaps.

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Every JW Elder In State Of Pennsylvania Subpoenaed

by JW GoneBad in

breaking news!

every jehovah’s witness elder in the 67 counties of pennsylvania are being given notice by state attorney's office to turn over any & all documents relating to child sex abuse cases!

watch attached video beginning at time-stamp 101:00...pay particular attention to what is said after 103:00.this is wild!.

TonusOH

Fisherman: All it takes is a Google search to confirm what I said.

Yes, you are right about the federal law and priest/lawyer/client relationships, and I am wrong.

I stand by my point about the WTS's approach, since we must keep in mind that many of the unreported crimes were not confessions by suspects, but accusations by victims. Otherwise, there would be no point to all of the subpoenas.

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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

this is not a joke.

anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

TonusOH

It'll be interesting to see if they offer up any details. Did he step down? Was he asked to step down? Is it due to illness? Did they sack him for expressing a personal opinion? Was the liquor cabinet inadequately stocked for the most recent meeting???

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Blood question re: sample for testing

by carla in

why can jw's give blood samples for testing in a medical setting?

i was with someone once (non jw related) who was getting multiple tests done and they must have taken a good pint all together in separate vials.

how do jw's square this with their blood policies?

TonusOH

The WTS is against the transfusion of blood. Storing blood for the purpose of transfusing it into a person is what they object to (even if it is your own blood). Blood that is drawn for testing is, presumably, discarded in accordance with local laws and regulations. It is understood that this blood is not collected for transfusions.

I'm not defending their stance regarding blood transfusions, just pointing out that they have a rational reason for not linking a blood draw to them.

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Details of Noah’s Ark

by enigma1863 in

jw magazines have claimed the flood story has so much detail that it couldn’t be just a made up story.. is it detailed?

name one person outside of noah’s family.

name one nephilim.

TonusOH

Genesis 6:4 - The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.

If we go only by the Genesis account, the Nephilim were 'heroes' and 'men of renown.' There are two other mentions, one in Ezekiel (which refers to mighty warriors, but does not use the word Nephilim) and one in Numbers (which, presumably, refers to their existence after the flood? The verse above seems to imply this as well).

The verse in Genesis seems like it was added in at some point, as it doesn't seem to fit in context. In any case, they seem like heroes of legend and not wicked dominators of men (though the verse in Numbers implies that they did terrorize people). Many cultures revere the powerful people who led them and/or kept them safe, and over time these characters are mythologized.