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  I find it interesting that after the cult people still hold on to religion....

  by BeaverEater in

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  im not an atheist, makes no mathematical sense, nor does the buy(more) bull(shit) god make any logical sense... maybe a deist on my best day, in the end you cannot get something from nothing, paradox if you ask me... but in reality i just dont care.

  while in, and moving out of the cult, its like a roller coaster, emotionally, yet, for me, over time, i just take it one day at a time, and if appeasing some special deity is required, well i guess i failed.

  lol.

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  Maybe he bit off more than he could chew.
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  American Healthcare: How your system works

  by Diogenesister in

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  canada has universal healthcare.

  the consensus is that america never will.

  can anyone explain why, please?

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  Diogenesister: That wouldn't work because everyone would move to the state that has healthcare free at the point of access.

  Well... kinda. Lots of big cities here offer a number of subsidized services for the poor, and that does indeed draw in more poor families, and sometimes pushes away the wealthy. While the budgets of many of these states are stretched thin by the demand, this hasn't really led to a mass exodus or a raft of bankrupt states (though the quality of life does suffer).

  On the other hand, I do think we're seeing the effects of years of slow and steady migration of wealthy individuals and businesses towards states that cater to them. I think we're in the midst of a big experiment. The USA is so large and prosperous that we effectively have many different regions, with their own economies and rules and options. Who/what wins out is anyone's guess, and I think it will be decades before we understand the results.

  Phizzy: Big Pharma would have to deal with a National buying Agency

  This is where we run into a big problem with how things are done here: big Pharma --like any other large business/industry-- has an army of lobbyists who will use targeted pressure (and lots of money) to influence how things are done. I think they have an unhealthy level of influence and input into laws and regulations. The attempts to use social awareness to counter them has, IMO, been highjacked by the more extreme political elements, who have discovered that political power is even more intoxicating than money.
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  Have you ever heard of a 'self-licking ice cream cone'?

  by jwleaks in

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  from an article appearing in this week's edition of the last days newsletter:.

  licking at an ice cream cone during our spiritual feasts - the watchtower magazine, june 1, 1953. .

  have you ever heard of ‘a self-licking ice cream cone’?.

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  Have you ever heard of a 'self-fellating governing body'?
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Simon: Yeah - all posts made from the same IP address.

  In other words... the comments are coming from inside the house!!
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  I'll just point out once again- if he believes that he's drawing a salary for his "work" then he's not an activist. He's an employee. And he cannot then refuse demands for content and grouse about doing things when he feels like it.

  Second- it's not about "earning money by helping people." He has threatened to stop his 'important activism work' if he cannot make a living wage at it. In other words: help people for free? He won't help people for anything less than a living wage for him, his editor, and his wife and kids.

  But, sure... keep defending him.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  He's just horrified at the idea that someone might practice activism without being paid a living wage. LOL
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  Why infant baptism in Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by Antonio_Madaleno in

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  "adult baptism was not simply a question of religious dogma; it was an issue of power.

  if baptism was delayed until adulthood​—thus allowing a person to make a decision based on faith—​some might not get baptized at all.

  and individuals not baptized would, at least to a degree, remain outside the control of the church.

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  JWs don't baptize infants, unless there was a change in doctrine recently.

  That looks like an explanation of why other churches may have instituted the practice. JWs do allow fairly young people to get baptized, but I think the youngest are 9 or 10 and those are relatively rare.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  slimboyfat: LE will never “understand” that his actions disqualify him because he simply cannot tolerate that conclusion.

  I agree. Not just the income, but the prestige and the adulation. Even now, after everything that has come out about him (most of which he verified himself), there are people who don't just support him- they practically worship him and live for the chance to go after his 'enemies.' I don't think they would do that if he was making a living washing dishes. He really does need the validation that comes from them, as it justifies his narcissism.
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  Is Bible chronology true?

  by Fisherman in

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  according to jw interpretation of bible chronology, the earliest human, adam, came into existence some 6,048 years ago compared to scientific dating of human fossils believed to be much older.

  since jesus validated the creation of adam and eve as historical people and jc’s own lineage is traced all the way back to adam, bible chronology is certified as true and there must be something wrong with scientific dating.

  what proves scientific dating as accurate that humans are much older than what bible chronology says?.

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  Fisherman: The Bible says that humans began to exist some 6000 years ago whereas scientific dating says much older.

  I don't think the Bible says that, it's just what people have extrapolated from (possibly incorrect or incomplete) genealogical lists in the text. Thus, the comparison is between ancient writings of indeterminate authorship and questionable reliability versus decades -if not centuries- of scientific research by millions of people in several (dozens?) of different fields of study and learning, which is documented and testable.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  His penis's name? Tyler Durden.