The person in question has the right to such a defense, even if the court rejects it and hands down an adverse judgment. "You are wrong, I did not assault that person" is a defense. "You are wrong, I did not commit apostasy" is a defense. If the person in question actually is a criminal or an apostate, that would make it a poor defense. But it is, nonetheless, an attempt to defend oneself from an accusation.
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My defense speech before the judicial committee
by Disfellowshipped-Brother indear brothers!.
we have gathered here because, according to your claims, i have apostatized, and as elders, it is your duty to maintain the purity of the flock.
it seems now that someone has contaminated it, apparently.
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My defense speech before the judicial committee
by Disfellowshipped-Brother indear brothers!.
we have gathered here because, according to your claims, i have apostatized, and as elders, it is your duty to maintain the purity of the flock.
it seems now that someone has contaminated it, apparently.
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TonusOH
Listener, I would consider it a defense, in that the OP is responding to an accusation and explaining himself. I do think it is valid to defend yourself by claiming that your accusers have it wrong and that their accusation is misguided, even if you plan to walk away afterwards.
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How Do You Know You Are In The Wrong Religion?
by Vanderhoven7 ini believe this list which many of us worked on needs to see the light of day again...and added to if possible.. you know you are in the wrong religion:1. when the all important question is not: "do you believe in the lord jesus christ?"....but....
"do you believe in the "faithful and discreet slave" appointed in brooklyn in 1919?"2.
when you will be refused baptism if: a. you don't believe jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bc (whereas all non-jw scholars, all encyclopedias and all history books say this event took place in 587 bc.)b.
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Rattigan350: The two witness rule was given by God because it is needed.
Was it, though? If you had god, you wouldn't need a second witness.
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How did you pass the time when the Kingdom Hall meetings became boring and repetitive/
by RULES & REGULATIONS inanother boring and repetitive ''watchtower study.
'' all the articles are about the ''faithful and discreet slave.''.
for whatever reason, you tolerate this for years.
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As a child, I mostly just say there and tried not to get my mother's attention. If she even thought we weren't paying rapt attention, we might end up with a trip to the bathroom for a short but very unpleasant beating. And then one at home, because that's how some people deal with the anger they feel at themselves.
As I got older, I think I spent a lot of time day-dreaming, because so few speakers knew how to keep an audience's attention. They just followed the script and droned on. I think many of them just wanted to survive the five or ten minutes they were assigned. It could really be a gloomy atmosphere during the meetings. Before and after? Everyone got to chat with friends and enjoy each other's company for a few minutes, and that was nice.
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My defense speech before the judicial committee
by Disfellowshipped-Brother indear brothers!.
we have gathered here because, according to your claims, i have apostatized, and as elders, it is your duty to maintain the purity of the flock.
it seems now that someone has contaminated it, apparently.
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TonusOH
DFB: I wasn't able to deliver this defense speech in full, as I wasn't given the time
My impression was that they would have stopped you before you even began. Typically, they prefer to manage the judicial committee in a very direct and organized manner, where they control the pace and the content. In other words, they would ask questions and you would give answers. A speech of any kind would be stopped with a request that you give a short, concise explanation of your side.
The last thing the WTS wants is for people to use a JC to create even a sliver of doubt in the minds of any attending elders. They want for you to grovel to them or challenge them, with either approach making their job easier. Gray areas make them very nervous.
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dailly text 6/26
by pokertopia inbecome imitators of me.—1 cor.
11:1.. when paul said this, did he ask us to imitate his preach activities?
it is not a new verse that starts anew, but a verse that ends the previous chapter, so what paul says to imitate is shown in the previous chapter.
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Imitate Paul? So... travel a lot and write letters? Not the worst way to spend your time!
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God and Unicorns
by Sea Breeze inatheist scientists now agree that "elasmotherium sibiricu" lived with humans.
all they had to do was read their bible to know that.
job 39:9 “will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?”.
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That's not a horn, that's a dunce cap!
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a pet peeve of mine
by enoughisenough inputting this under "friends" because i couldn't figure out where to put it.
it is very often on here and in ex jw videos, ect that people like to undermine some of those who once we would have called friends.
there seems to be a view that window washers, plumbers, cleaners, construction workers are somehow less intelligent than those who may be college educated.
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TonusOH
I think people have always associated a college degree with higher intelligence. When I was young, college was something that you did if you wanted to become an engineer, or a doctor, and other professions that required a lot of extra schooling and subjects like advanced math or biology. So it was a simple association- if you went to college, you were smart.
Like any stereotype, there will be rules and exceptions. For a JW, higher education was something that we were asked to forego in order to keep our faith strong. While this normally might cause people to have an inferiority complex, we also understood that we were smarter for doing so, since we would enjoy salvation while those 'smarter' people died at Armageddon. So we had this ironic situation, where we passed on higher education while feeling superior to those who chose to go to college.
As for me, I was a good JW and passed on going to college. I became an IT technician and an IT administrator for a while. I only got the most basic certifications, and I did so around 20 years late, mostly so I could get a raise.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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TonusOH
You're pretty far down the rabbit hole when 'prostitution and cheating aren't that bad' qualify as a character defense.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Toblerone5: Was it reallly to "save" his mariage the reason he came home?
I think he rushed back home so he could take control of the situation. Much easier to manipulate/intimidate/control people face-to-face.