The first video also explores a different group that has an even more horrifying history than the JWs. The JW-specific section starts around 19 minutes in.
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Concealing Abuse videos
by TonusOH ini don't know if this has been posted here before, seeing as the videos are 4 and 5 years old.
the older one analuzes the coverup of csa by the wts, but also does a very good job of covering the 1975 issue:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xft_aeqw2ga.
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Concealing Abuse videos
by TonusOH ini don't know if this has been posted here before, seeing as the videos are 4 and 5 years old.
the older one analuzes the coverup of csa by the wts, but also does a very good job of covering the 1975 issue:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xft_aeqw2ga.
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I don't know if this has been posted here before, seeing as the videos are 4 and 5 years old. The older one analuzes the coverup of CSA by the WTS, but also does a very good job of covering the 1975 issue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFt_aeQw2GA
There is also a two-part series on the Australian Royal Commission's investigation into how the WTS handled CSA cases:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsvJMlg_SaM
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There were some forms of proselytizing I did not mind, such as conversations with people who had genuine questions when they learned I was a JW. But going door-to-door on weekend mornings --especially in the over-worked territories we lived in-- meant that we were creating a situation where we were least likely to be welcome. And no one cared, because reporting hours was an important metric.
I don't know how many years I went door-to-door. Thirty? I may have had two or three good conversations in all of that time. I had far more useful conversations at work or with friends who simply had a question or two. I don't think I converted anyone, but I was able to discuss issues and even leave literature with them sometimes. Accosting people in the street or bothering them at the worst times is only good for adding an hour to the monthly total. Not so good for actually saving people.
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Museum Pic
by peacefulpete ina lot of ink has been spilled on the topic of the cross.
the wt felt it had uncovered some deep conspiracy when they found a number of words were used to describe how jesus was understood to have been killed.
there was an extensive thread many years ago that in short strongly supports the conclusion that at least some nt writers envisioned a cross, while others had a tree in mind.
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I think we still heavily depend on mythology and folklore for our stories today. But I think we are finally past the point where those can become more than just stories told for entertainment or teaching purposes. But I'm not sure about that, given that Mormonism and Scientology are quite recent and have become established religions with small but devoted followings.
It might be more difficult today to create a new religion, even one built on the framework of previous ones. But I might be overestimating just how powerful such ideas can be, and just how badly people want them to be real.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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T5: So who would care ,must be the one that give more $$$ each months
That's a good point. I wonder how much of his remaining support is people pledging high amounts versus people on the lower tiers? Maybe that is why his enthusiasm is waning; I think he would feel insulted at having to produce anything for anyone but the most generous. Or did you lower-tier people think that he is actually grateful that you give $1 or $5 every month?
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Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool - December 2023
by DerekMoors input in your bets as to where you think lard i mean lloyd evans will land after december's drop in his patrons.
in september he started at 457 patrons, did his whiny begging fest and peaked at 478, but then dropped down to 439 at the beginning of october.
as of this moment (nov. 6), he's at 427 paid members.. so, where do you think he'll be on december 2nd?
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Congrats, Kim!
I have to say, it looks like his support might be reaching a point of equilibrium. Mostly the die-hards are left, perhaps? On the other hand, he would still need to make an effort to keep the number stable, and lately he does not seem interested. So this might be where the slow bleed begins.
But I'm still going to guess around -25 for next month.
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How Do Jehovah's Witnesses View Education?
by southyukon ini have a question about this article.. https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/jw-education-school/.
higher education can lead to moral and spiritual dangers.
a bible proverb says: "the shrewd one sees the danger and conceals himself.
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Yeah, if you can boil your worldview down to "thinking is bad," it's time to re-evaluate your worldview.
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How Do Jehovah's Witnesses View Education?
by southyukon ini have a question about this article.. https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/jw-education-school/.
higher education can lead to moral and spiritual dangers.
a bible proverb says: "the shrewd one sees the danger and conceals himself.
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Vidiot: Suspiciously?
This. The WTS is concerned that college will lead young people astray. Keep in mind that JW parents are taught to monitor and manage their children to keep them safe from spiritual dangers. Once they head off to college, it is almost impossible to keep a close eye on them. Plus, they may learn things that don't come from the nutcases and quacks that the WTS often quotes from in their literature. Worst of all, they might learn about evolution!
Better to get a low-grade job that pays barely enough to keep a roof over their heads. Then the WTS can gripe about how little they contribute financially during tough times.
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Are Jw's God's Organization?
by wantingtruth inhere i will quote a post written by "littleone" on another forum:.
when that original congregation apostasized, it formed the roman catholic church.
was it that the roman catholic church was jehovah's organization?
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God will hear and listen to prayer, and wants a personal relationship with each of us. So if we pray and study the Bible, an organization is superfluous. The idea of god only allowing salvation through one specific group of people and rejecting everyone else on what amounts to a technicality is dumb.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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And also: please please PLEASE take on Scientology next. Those assholes love to dig into people's past and stir up trouble whenever anyone criticizes them. Gee, I wonder what they could use again Evans...