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  Bathwater

  by peacefulpete in

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  2. beliefs

  many who have become disillusioned by some particular recent wt offence, separate from the church physically but retain the indoctrination the wt installed in their brains.

  a familiar trope is often used,.

  "don't throw the baby out with the bathwater!".

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  TonusOH

  The WTS isn't unique in updating its "knowledge" as humanity learns more about itself and our world. They're not even unique in having most of those updates amount to "no, the world didn't end this time." In that light, it's not entirely wrong to say that any denomination has a proper understanding of the Bible.
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  What If The Tower Fell?

  by Big Dog in

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  what if the truly unthinkable happened and the tower went down?

  perhaps the irs swooped in and claimed fraud and padlocked the headquarters and kingdom hall doors?

  or the gb took the money and ran to a nice non-extradition country to live out their years?

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  JeffT: Scientology yes, Mormonism no, depending on what time frame you use. The Mormons predate the Watchtower.

  I was thinking about the origins of the Abrahamic religions, which would have been many centuries prior. Mormonism was born during a period of upheaval in the US, but most of the denominations that grew out of it based their beliefs on the Bible. Joseph Smith decided to write a new book and effectively create a new religion. Hubbard decided to do him one better. It remains amazing to me that either survived the religious environment of their time (and, in fairness, Smith himself did not survive it).
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  Encouraging scriptures for the day

  by Kosonen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello my friends,.

  here are some encouraging scriptures for the day:.

  revelation 21:2 i also saw the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.. hebrews 11:10 for he (abraham) was awaiting the city having real foundations, whose designer and builder is god.. revelation 21:24 and the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.. revelation 22:1 and he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of god and of the lamb 2 down the middle of its main street (of the holy city).

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  TonusOH

  The GB advises the rank and file not to become too attached to material things because "Jehovah will provide." Then they make videos asking for more contributions and advising the rank and file to give generously. It makes you think that they don't trust Jehovah as much as they expect the rank and file to trust him.
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  Lard I Mean Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool - January 2024

  by DerekMoors in

  1. social
  2. humour

  okay people, you know the drill.

  give us your best estimate for where jabba the hut's fatter, broker cousin will be with patrons on january 2.. some numbers to consider:.

  last september is when he did his beg-fest and peaked at 478. just two months later, early november, he was down to 427. .

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  I'm going to go conservative on this one and say 392.

  I'm guessing that the die-hards will dig in. I am also assuming that there will be at least one video or Patreon/Facebook post where he asks them not to let the Silvo Mob* win. That will probably give the numbers a slight boost and/or slow the decline.

  *We need an image of Kim as a mob boss.
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  A New Name for an Old Orgy - Awake 95 2/8 pp. 26-27

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yep, that is the title of an article in the 1995 awake magazine alerting people to the horrors of valentine's cards & candy.

  the message is simple, if you eat valentine's candy at school while no one is looking, it's nearly the same as being in an orgy.

  i just can't believe some of the garbage i used to read and regard as acceptable literature.

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  I love chocolate, but I don't know that I've ever had a piece that made me feel like I was taking part in an orgy.

  Although, some of those chocolate-covered cherries...
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  The ''dreaded'' birthday cake

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower—study edition | september 2023. study article 39. let mildness be your strength.

  11 if a workmate asks, for example, why we do not celebrate birthdays, consider: could he be wondering whether we are allowed to have a good time?

  or might he feel that our position will dampen the company’s team spirit?

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  peacefulpete: So ask your mom when she cut you off the teat and celebrate that day each year!

  Happy Weanie Day!!!
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  The Saddest Thing About Tony Morris's Removal

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i've mentioned before how i've wondered how tony morris must have felt when he was sacked.

  yes, i know he's a rehensible human being who got served a healthy dose of karma, or, if you like, divine judgement.

  to go from having all there is to have within the world he lived in, to where he is now; that's a long fall.

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  If his exit from the GB had anything to do with the recent changes in doctrine and policy, it well may be that he chose to step away rather than start a messy fight. His comfy arrangements might be less about keeping him quiet and more about being grateful that he chose not to create a PR headache for the rest of them.

  But, as others are saying, until we find out what actually happened, it's just more guesswork. I'm impressed that they've kept it under wraps this long.
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  The 'Tower has no Face

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just thinking about how the wt has evolved over the century of its existence.

  before the gb tricked knorr into making them the ones responsible for everything, the president at the time was very much the face of the society.

  after franz, it all became a bit nebulous as to who was in charge.. is the current situation more advantageous to the wt or less?.

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  They dodged a bullet by limiting Franz's power in the 1970s, especially after Knorr passed away. Franz strikes me as a guy who would have wanted to rebuild the organization the way Rutherford did. But radical changes would not have been good for the rank and file, especially right after the 1975 fiasco. Franz would have driven the org right off a cliff.

  The issue today is the lack of charisma among the GB members. Too many old guys who are used to preaching to a captive and obedient choir, and have never thought about how they come across to potential recruits. And with a constant presence via videos and social media, the mystique is gone. When you look and sound like a clown or a cartoon, it's tough for people to take you seriously.
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  JWLITE

  by Teddnzo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  even elders can be part of the new jw lite brigade these days.

  they don’t need to go on door to door anymore and there is no requirement for anything really.. taking meeting parts is all dead easy you could turn up on the day with zero preparation because it’s all in the meeting workbook.. quarterly elders meetings are just old men having a good old natter just like old men do down the pub.. congregations could be likened to pubs or bars these days just without the drinks, those come at other times.. no need for territory maps, these almost went away with covid letter writing now they are extremely slow getting finished as those who still go door to door only do ten mins.. you could even voice your questions these days about things the gb say and then just say “we can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know”.

  i predict they will say this about 1914 soon..

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  ElderBerry: Is it a judicial matter if a baptised publisher openly says they sometimes read apostate websites?

  I don't know if it would automatically be handled that way. But when I was in, that would have been a red flag for everyone else. At the very least, such a person would get a 'friendly' talking to, mostly in order to find out why they would do something so 'dangerous' and to gauge if they were a potential problem for the congregation.

  Does the organization view such behavior differently now? Apostates were always the easy villain for warning the rank and file not to listen to anything that wasn't from the GB.
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  Did Christ PASS or FAIL the org? 😁

  by BoogerMan in

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  2. beliefs

  inspection year: 1918 result: failed inspection.

  inspection year: 1918 result: passed inspection.

  inspection year: 1918 result: passed inspection.

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  TonusOH

  According to the GB, Jesus is the ultimate flip-flopper.