Posts by TonusOH

uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

TonusOH

This would be the same glacially slow court system that he had to scramble to keep up with when they set a deadline for him to present evidence because fifteen months wasn't long enough.

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New Study: Mars Once Was Completely Covered in Oceans

by Sea Breeze in

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"the new study indicates that the oceans that covered the entire planet in water were at least 300 metres deep.

they may have been up to one kilometre deep.".

yet, some secularists say they are sure that the earth was never completely flooded with water above the tops of mountains as described in genesis.

TonusOH

SeaBreeze: What is it about resurrecting oneself from the dead that is insufficient for you to trust him?

The fact that there is no evidence that he resurrected himself. There isn't even evidence that this individual was anything other than a regular human being. We cannot even be certain that he existed at all.

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Are Atheists Hypocritical in Celebrating Christmas?

by Sea Breeze in

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richard dawkins revealed that he celebrates christmas on radio four's today programme.. here is is quoted as saying: .

'i am perfectly happy on christmas day to say merry christmas to everybody,' dawkins said.

'i might sing christmas carols - once i was privileged to be invited to kings college, cambridge, for their christmas carols and loved it.

TonusOH

I'm fine with the idea that it is hypocritical to celebrate Christmas while not believing in god. My comment about Labor Day was facetious, but could be seen in the same light. I celebrate Halloween, though I do not believe in demons or witches or ghosts. I celebrate Thanksgiving, but do not say a prayer of thanks. There are likely to be other such celebrations that I partake in without believing in the subject being celebrated.

I doubt most people would express any concern over it. It sounds similar to saying that I'm a coward because I refuse to drive a large knife through my hand. It's true! I refuse to do it, and it doesn't bother me to be considered a coward in this context. I am comfortable making that trade-off, and many like it.

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What does God eat ?

by stan livedeath in

beans ?

( human beans ).

to those of you that believe in god: do you all believe the same thing ?.

TonusOH

I don't think I ever considered that question, because god is a spirit being, and it appears that this is not an issue for them. That does make me wonder how energy and matter work in that realm. Is god (and angels, etc) made of matter? If not, what is he (and angels, etc) made of?

Angels took on forms of flesh from time to time, as did god at least once. Jesus apparently ate and drank and slept and relieved himself as any human would. Suddenly I am forced to wonder why we weren't simply made as spirit beings, or as some sort of hybrid that would not need to spend so much time storing or recuperating energy. That would've made things far less complicated, it seems.

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Are Atheists Hypocritical in Celebrating Christmas?

by Sea Breeze in

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richard dawkins revealed that he celebrates christmas on radio four's today programme.. here is is quoted as saying: .

'i am perfectly happy on christmas day to say merry christmas to everybody,' dawkins said.

'i might sing christmas carols - once i was privileged to be invited to kings college, cambridge, for their christmas carols and loved it.

TonusOH

Stephen Hawking hasn't had an opportunity to celebrate Christmas for five or six years, now.

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Are Atheists Hypocritical in Celebrating Christmas?

by Sea Breeze in

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richard dawkins revealed that he celebrates christmas on radio four's today programme.. here is is quoted as saying: .

'i am perfectly happy on christmas day to say merry christmas to everybody,' dawkins said.

'i might sing christmas carols - once i was privileged to be invited to kings college, cambridge, for their christmas carols and loved it.

TonusOH

Christmas? That's the least of it: I don't work on Labor Day!

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Theory on the GB "new light" pushing back the final judgment.

by Jofi_Wofo in

i know there are several threads already on this "new light", but i didn't see one that covered this particular angle.. since the gb seem to have an ulterior motive for everything they do, well beyond their publicly stated reasons, i began to wonder why they would be concerned with pushing back the closing of the window of jesus' judgement.

this is especially puzzling because the doctrine of the start of great tribulation being the final cutoff was one that the gb seemed to especially revel in for so long.

they could hang it over everyone's heads as a looming threat.

TonusOH

It would be funny if they suddenly announced that the great tribulation had already started and we simply hadn't realized it.