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  Do COs and Branch Officials Have A Rulebook?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  elders have a rulebook.

  do cos and their superiors have a similar written set of guidelines setting out everything they're supposed to be on top of?.

  what prompted the question was a statement by jehovax that there is a new elders manual coming out due to the new changes.

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  TonusOH

  Dunno. I wonder if the IPs are all the same or not. But that's just the old forum admin in me, being restless.

  They all sound alike, though. Hung up on vaccines and 'JW Lite.'
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  Elders or any higher ups at Bethel get paid?

  by TxNVSue2023 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i found this while googling.

  i thought elders and/or high rankers don't get paid.

  is there something i don't know?

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  Those sites allow people to add data anonymously. As far as I know, they do not confirm anything that is entered. If you could earn $50k-to-$95k a year serving as an elder, congregations would be overflowing with elders.

  The WTS would sooner request that elders pay $50k a year for the privilege.
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  Beware of someone who will "cry wolf"!

  by redsetter2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the following is an excerpt from one of aesop's fables.. the boy who cried "wolf"!.

  there once was a shepherd boy who was bored as he sat on the hillside watching the village sheep.

  to amuse himself he took a great breath and sang out, "wolf!

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  I would assume the purpose of fake accounts and websites is to see if they can identify the people who are giving away information from the inside. Internal witch hunts, to match the ones they use to try and identify PIMOs who run websites and video channels. And, as a side benefit for them, they might just identify rank-and-file members who have let their curiosity get the better of them, and nip any of this "think for myself" madness in the bud.
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  Former Jehovah's Witness elder committed to stand trial accused of Sunshine Coast rapes, sexual abuse

  by yalbmert99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-20/former-jehovahs-witness-elder-to-stand-trial-accused-of-rape/103612422.

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  Calling them gay sounds very much like they were telling them that they must have enjoyed it, or even initiated it. It is the sort of thing used to shame rape victims. This is exactly the kind of thing that has to be brought to light in these cases.
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  Thoughts on Likely Upcoming Changes in the Org.

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am thinking that the "ten year plan" that some have spoken of is the most likely scenario.

  the org.

  has to both attract new members and retain as many existing ones as possible.. so i think they will let the recent changes "bed in" for a while, maybe a year ?

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  Vidiot: any remaining incentive to stay is basically gone.

  With enough of these types of changes, the incentive to leave may also be gone. Make holidays and birthdays a conscience matter, make shunning so rare as to be forgotten, revoke the blood policy, and suddenly you've got a mainstream religion and not a depressing cult. Just change the website link to JWTF_org.
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  Trickle or flood?

  by joey jojo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  now that some reasonably big changes have occurred in a short time frame, whats next?

  will the gb let the dust settle for a bit, or will they keep dropping bombs this year?.

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  Well, there is a lot to fix, although most of the fixes amount to "we will no longer stick our noses into your personal business." Doing it gradually might get people thinking that the changes will never end, but pushing them across faster could alienate a lot of people who otherwise would have made adjustments over time.

  Maybe they could get away with a quicker pace, if the changes are of the 'conscience matter' variety (ie, no more sticking their noses in your personal business). Some might not want to make decisions for themselves after so many years of conditioning, but freedom tends to feel good almost every time.
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  Lack of Joy

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  because of some respect for family members, we visited the memorial today.. a moment i always think, could i go back into this religion?

  we entered the hall and some said a short hello.

  and with short i say short.

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  You should have taken the plate and loudly commented "looks pretty fresh for the flesh of a guy who's been dead 2,000 years."
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  Thoughts on Likely Upcoming Changes in the Org.

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am thinking that the "ten year plan" that some have spoken of is the most likely scenario.

  the org.

  has to both attract new members and retain as many existing ones as possible.. so i think they will let the recent changes "bed in" for a while, maybe a year ?

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  I bet they regret reviving the 1914 stuff in 2010 with the overlapping generations video. It had been fading into the background since 1995, and they could be free of it already. Whoever came up with the overlapping generations crap is a world-class idiot.
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  JW Expanded Volunteer Activities?

  by doinmypart in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think the gb needs to expand publishers' volunteer activities beyond door knocking.. gb has shifted away from door-knocking to more varied forms of witnessing and no longer counting time for publishers.

  my prediction is that the gb will start encouraging jws to participate in broader community volunteer efforts: clean-up drives, food banks, senior citizen support, and other non-proselytizing activities.

  this move could help them gain goodwill with government agencies and the public.. expanding volunteer activities could significantly shift how jws are perceived by the wider community.

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  That would also require a change that I think they need very badly- to allow the rank and file to have normal social interaction with non-JWs. Stop the isolation and the separation from "the world" and allow them to develop friendships and relationships. I think that even the hardcore old-schoolers would welcome that.
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  Former Jehovah's Witness elder committed to stand trial accused of Sunshine Coast rapes, sexual abuse

  by yalbmert99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-20/former-jehovahs-witness-elder-to-stand-trial-accused-of-rape/103612422.

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  Thanks, Earnest. That makes this much messier for the organization.