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  Newtons prediction for end of the world

  by dothemath in

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  maybe this man (sir isaac newton), has more credibility than fred franz in picking a date for armageddon ?.

  interestingly, newton(brilliant mathematician, everyone must know him) was very interested in the bible and revelation .. .

  what newton tried to do was determine a particular timescale for the apocalypse.

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  Newton wrote (per Ancient Code) that A.D. 800 (the year Charlemagne created the Holy Roman Empire) would be a perfect year to begin counting from. Using 1,260 years gives us an end date of, yes, 2060.

  2061: "overlapping empires"
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  DerekMoors: Dave said something about people being critical of Lloyd and that he didn't want an xJW "civil war."

  I think that is born of the hope that everyone will get along. But the problem is that it protects people like Evans, who mistreats others and expects his bad behavior to be excused because he's 'too important to the cause.' It is necessary to realize that when an 'important' person misbehaves, he is actually hurting the cause.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  slimboyfat: yet curiously LE didn’t send any legal threats to Dr Das.

  That was my impression as well. After the initial video, Andrew Gold unmasked him and interviewed Dr. Das, but he also interviewed Kim Silvio, over Lloyd's fervent objections. But Evans never filed charges against Gold or Das, even though their words are easily accessible to anyone with an internet connection and web browser.

  I think he realizes that he's a big fish in a very small pond. Bullying fellow exJWs is one thing, but he has had trouble controlling the narrative even with them. Moving up a few ranks would have put him in a situation where he was getting a lot more attention (most of it negative) and where he would be badly outgunned in terms of the ability to reach people with a message.
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  Missing Monthly Broadcast - May 2015

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  youtuber millstone research has done a video on the fact that the may 2015 monthly broadcast is no longer on jw org.. https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/categories/studiomonthlyprograms.

  the broadcast was presented by lett who mentions he had the backing of the other gb members regarding his comments.. the broadcast is basically about soliciting jws for funds as well as other 'valuable things' for the organisation.

  this is the one where he claims that the money flowing out was more than the money flowing in.

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  Bummer, that video was useful in showing how duplicitous they are. Lett was basically saying 'we never solicit donations, and if you give generously right now, we won't have to start.' Weasel words, so that they can say that they did not specifically ask for money, even though it was pretty clear what the message was.

  But it's also funny if they have permanently removed it, since that makes me think it has not aged well and is something of an embarrassment for them. Or maybe it's the opposite, and they want to upload a new one where they ask for donations while insisting that they are not. You would not want too many of those videos in your library...
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Maybe he can create new goals.

  "At 250 patrons, I will 'pay' my right hand for sex more frequently, and name a corner of my flat 'Phuket' in order to capture some of that Thai magic on the cheap."
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  I think his previous low on patrons was 430, and it had grown back to 445 or so recently. So this is a significant drop, this far into the year.
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  Is the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses REALLY the "faithful and discreet slave" of Matt. 24:45-47?

  by Roger Kirkpatrick in

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  2. beliefs

  thesis: when someone who is given a responsibility mistakes that responsibility for authority, bullying is very likely to occur.. jesus spoke an illustration recorded at matthew 24: 45-51 which well illustrates this thesis.. jesus asked, “who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over all his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

  happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.

  truly i say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.

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  Witness 007: Rutherford bought a mansion for Moses and David

  The WTS bought the mansion for the 'worthies' who would soon take possession of it. In the meantime, Rutherford wanted to make sure it was kept tidy and neat, and so he spent quite a bit of time visiting there. I wonder if the two expensive cars the WTS bought (and that Rutherford made liberal use of) were for Moses and David to drive around in and pick up girls. I kind of feel bad for those old time greats; they will finally arrive and learn that their house was sold off and the cars were either scrapped or became museum pieces.

  Maybe the WTS can buy them Teslas!
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  Sexual abuse and Jehovah's witnesses- the gift that keep on giving

  by wannaexit in

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  2. child-abuse

  there seems to be no end to the many jw's who sexually abused minors.

  here is another story:.

  https://www.inquirer.com/news/pa-jehovahs-witnesses-sex-assault-attorney-general-shapiro-20221027.html.

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  Thank you for the updates, Earnest!
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  LMsA: But this is a tangible amount, i.e. something that can be proven that the plaintiff actually lost in cash value as a direct result of the respondent’s actions.

  And also: he did not offer specifics. He just made the general charge and asked for a settlement amount. That would be like saying "your child threw a rock at my house, I want $X as compensation" without explaining whether the rock bounced harmlessly off of the steps or shattered a window. And then, when the parent asks for specifics, is told that the homeowner is under no obligation to provide them, insisting that they ask the child instead. Most people would regard the plaintiff in this matter to be something of a clown, at best. A grifter, at worst.

  So, we wait to see if he will ever reveal (to the defendants) what he is accusing them of saying, that he felt was worth 3,000 or 8,000 Euro. My guess: he will never reveal it since he knows the case will be dismissed, or he will reveal it and the mockery will begin anew. I'm not sure he can handle the latter.
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  “Hanging the earth upon nothing”

  by FFGhost in

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  2. beliefs

  for those of you not up to speed on the latest jw trends, one of the key scriptures the jws are using in field serve-us lately is job 26:7, wherein the writer describes the earth as “hanging upon nothing”.. this text is used to indicate the bible’s “reliability”.

  the reasoning goes something like this:.

  “see, centuries ago, people thought the world was flat, or was resting on elephants or turtles, or some such nonsense.

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  If they were being guided by a being who literally knew everything, it would have been useful for the book to offer some of this knowledge clearly and directly. Imagine telling us that the Earth was a sphere that rotated around the sun, part of a galaxy of planets that were in orbits around a star. No interpretation required, just information that would make it clear that these men had access to a source of knowledge that transcended us.

  The vagueness of these passages only becomes evident as humanity learns more and realizes that the initial impressions were wrong. No firmament. No corners. No foundation. I've seen Islamic believers explaining how a modern interpretation of the Quran shows it to bear scientific knowledge that could only have come from God (apparently, they believe that the Quran explains the motion of the deep ocean currents, something men of the time could not possibly know about). Does the Christian accept these verses and the new interpretation?