Posts by TonusOH

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

One thing to take away from that Reddit post: Lloyd is starting to lose people for, basically, being Lloyd. It has not been surprising that he lost so much support, since most of his supporters were religious people who would be turned off by his actions. Which means that the ones who remain are either unaware of what he has done or did not feel it was sufficient reason to drop support. But, as he has shown so often, Evans is not a pleasant person and not afraid to show his unpleasant side, even to people who are rooting for him.

So it is likely that he will continue to lose patrons, because some will learn about him and be doubly resentful (for what he did and for hiding it from them) and others will find another reason to stop supporting him (because he's a massive douchebag).

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

JeffT: What did he need an initial print of 100 copies for?

I was thinking the same. If he wanted to offer some for sale through the crowdfunding campaign, I guess I can understand that. But he spoke of "what I need." Not a tier where you get a limited-edition first-printing, just a request to cover the print costs. He should be embarrassed that he tried to justify asking for gas money and for people to cover the cut that Indiegogo and PayPal would take.

Especially when -as you noted- Amazon already provides everything he would need to get the book printed and sold, at a minimal upfront cost to him. But if he had chosen that option, he probably would have started a crowdfunding campaign to ask people to donate to cover his internet connection costs.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

I agree with the assumption that Evans thought he was untouchable. But it makes it more remarkable to see that moment in his video (which is replayed in Kim's latest), where he hesitates when addressing her claim that he was visiting sex workers for "many years."

Evans: "Many years? I think... I'm gonna say... [lengthy pause] three or four years."

I think he really wanted to either deny it or minimize it into nothing, but he probably realized that his words had been sent via a chat app and, therefore, still existed on Kim's phone/computer. So he came up with 'three or four years' as one pick out of a bunch of bad options.

It does show how bad the truth must be, that admitting he paid for sex "every few months for three or four years" was the least damaging look for him. And yet, he didn't hesitate to wrap himself in righteous indignation over Kim's Reddit post. In other words, cheating on his wife with prostitutes for years is not nearly as bad as telling everyone about it. The man's perspective is just a bit warped...

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

Heh... the same person who constantly bitches about others telling lies about him does not hesitate to claim that Kim is being "criminally prosecuted."

But also... "criminally prosecuted"? So, the person prosecuting her is doing so in a criminal manner? I guess his mastery of the English language is about as reliable as his mastery over his penis.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

When he says that they 'flip[ped] to being judgmental and self-righteous,' he is simply saying that he's upset that they stopped supporting him and refused to agree that everyone lacks self-discipline. Remember, he mocked "Saintly" Brandon for expecting better of him. Anyone who thinks he should've been a better husband and father is judgmental and self-righteous. Anyone who thinks he shouldn't have been a bully and an asshole is judgmental and self-righteous. If you're not with him, you're judgmental and self-righteous.

As for doing things differently, it's like Kim said: the thing he would have done differently is to try harder to keep his supporters from learning that he was cheating on his wife with prostitutes and is generally a shitty person. It must rankle him that it's become so difficult to bully people and shut them down.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

NonCoinCollector: Why is Lloyd Evans crying about an 8-month-old video?

It looks to me as if he took a moment to gloat, and is upset that people are saying it looks bad. Evans wants people to look up to him, to recognize that he's a good person doing important work and leaving a positive legacy. Even now, the fact that people are pointing out that he comes across as a jerk unsettles him so much that he can't help but fire off angry replies. His anger is not from altworldly's video about him! Evans is angry because people won't take his side and pat him on the shoulder. His need for validation is so strong that he won't suppress it, even when it makes him look bad.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

LMsA: And the cherry on top is that he says he’s “seething”.

Maybe he can rub one out, to relax. It's the perfect time, too: there is no shortage of Christmas trees within easy reach.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

slimboyfat: I see LE is also still insisting that people must guess what on earth he is talking about when he claims others have “lied” about him.

Yeah, I noticed that as well. He uses it as a way to accuse others without actually having to back up his claims.

Evans: "This person lied about me!"

Everyone else: "Oh? Where is the lie?"

Evans: "It's not my obligation to tell you!"

And he wonders why his reputation is in the toilet.

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Jehovah's Witnesses lose registration as a religious community in Norway

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

https://www.statsforvalteren.no/nb/oslo-og-viken/folk-og-samfunn/tros--og-livssynssamfunn/jehovas-vitner-taper-registrering-som-trossamfunn/.

published december 22, 2022. the state manager in oslo and viken has decided to withdraw jehovah's witnesses registration as a religious community under the religious society act.. .

we sent a notice to jehovah's witnesses about possible loss of registration on october 25 this year.

TonusOH

You know you've got it good when "the government won't give us millions of dollars for nothing" is considered persecution and a sign of the end times.

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Who raised Jesus from the dead?

by Blotty in

i have seen arguments surrounding jesus' resurrection being proof of "the trinity" - now while in some cases it's a good argument the evidence for it remains very weak.

(bible quotes are from the nwt but other bibles are referenced, use whichever you please) this following version of it is a good example.. "the bible indicates that all [persons] of the trinity was involved in jesus’ resurrection.

galatians[1:1] says that the father raised jesus from the dead.

TonusOH

I just want to point out that it's not necessarily an either/or proposition. I don't rule out the supernatural or the existence of gods. I am simply not convinced by the ones put forth. Or, more accurately, by the concept of god as humans have typically constructed it- the supposed perfect interventionist who doesn't seem perfect and never appears to intervene. I'm not religious, so I am not obliged to accept a set of rigid beliefs if I am not convinced that they are true, or if I am not learned enough to determine that for myself.

Thus, I am not bound by any precepts of materialism or supernaturalism. I have no need to convince anyone of my stance on the origins of the universe, as I am neither qualified nor obligated to do so. Anyone who wishes to convince me would need to explain their reasons and their reasoning. I don't have the education necessary to understand high-level astronomy or physics, so you won't see me trying to convince someone that the universe is the exclusive result of material processes. Happily, the universe goes about its business --and I go about mine-- just fine without my ever needing to understand them.

And if god wishes to get my attention, I am sure she can figure something out.