Posts by TonusOH

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Bethel- Which Governing Body member had a Nervous Breakdown and why?

by Witness 007 in

{from watchtower life story- please note the pressure put on him at bethel}.

in 1934 karl klien had a nervous breakdown while serving at bethel.

baptized at 12 he didn't go door to door till he was 18...while serving as a teenage elder!

TonusOH

Witness 007: 1950 Brother Knorr invited me..to join the Writting Department. When I told him it did not matter where I served, HE REPROVED ME saying when an added privlege of service is extended we should be eager to accept it.

I think Ray Franz outlined a similar experience with Knorr in Crisis of Conscience. Knorr extended an offer to Franz to leave the Carribean and go to Bethel, and Franz implied that he was happy where he was. Knorr's reaction gave Franz the impression that he was rejecting a generous offer. Franz quickly clarified that he was happy to move to Brooklyn and the WTS HQ.

Knorr sounds like a guy who was used to people doing as he 'asked.'

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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

this is not a joke.

anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

TonusOH

I'm not sure they can avoid liability by cutting him loose, especially if they did it just as an investigation is starting. Nor would it work very well for them to try and paint him as a lone-wolf, when he was part of a group that presents an image as a unified body of men working under the direct guidance of the Holy Spirit.

Anything they could do to try and distance themselves from him really wouldn't work at this late stage. They can't be that unprepared, can they?

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

I can understand why people would be tired of seeing the topic on the front page after so long, and I can understand why people would be surprised at the length of it. In a small forum with low volume, it stands out.

I think it is still going because Evans is still going. He hasn't owned up to who he is and what he has done over the years, and instead has doubled-down and dug in. Until he goes away, interest in this topic will continue. I'm still amused by him and his antics, and the way he seems to be charting a slow and steady course towards irrelevance.

For others -especially those who have had unpleasant experiences with him- I think this topic will remain relevant until he becomes irrelevant. He's on his way, but it looks like it will be a while. I'd give him credit for resiliency, but I think it's more along the lines of desperation that keeps him going.

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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

this is not a joke.

anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

TonusOH

joey jojo: The 2 new guys look way too sober to provide any real fun.

I wonder if that's part of the plan, to get people who deliver the message as blandly and as on-point as possible.

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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

this is not a joke.

anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

TonusOH

If any GB member could be counted on to do a drunken confessional livestream, it might be Tony Morris...

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Shunning Jesus

by AEnEm in

my first post will be hidden in the far more important news about am3.

incredible!

who knows what the ramifications will be.. as a pimo who still believes in the bible and christ, i wanted to share the following fun fact about the latest study publications.

TonusOH

It is interesting to view their study guide from a perspective of someone long since gone. It reads like the older books and pamphlets, with an emphasis on how the Bible helps us to find what we seek and what we need, along with encouragement to read the Bible for themselves while also preparing them for the pick-and-choose manner in which the WTS uses Bible verses to make their sales pitch and reinforce their teachings.

What the prospective study doesn't know is that, once they're attending meetings regularly, the message changes in a subtle but important way-- the organization becomes the focus. You no longer are encouraged to read the Bible for yourself- you are encouraged to read the packaged portions and recognize that the organization's explanation is the correct one. You aren't reading the Bible to test what you are told. You are cofirming what you are told, if you know what's good for you.

Also, while they minimize Jesus, they constantly insist that this is not the case. Your average JW will consider it utterly ridiculous to think that they do not give Jesus the importance he deserves.

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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

this is not a joke.

anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

TonusOH

If they wipe out his video history, that would crank the rumor mill into overdrive. It's an interesting dilemma. Ray Franz had a hand in writing a lot of the content in the Aid to Bible Understanding book. Others who were removed during that purge also helped write books and articles. None of that content was removed or recalled. Since the writer's names weren't on any of the content, I guess they felt safe in leaving it alone. That's not the case with Morris.

Now that I think of it, is there anything in Insight on the Scriptures that was copied from the Aid book? I wonder how much current information was written by those who were removed for apostasy in the 1980s.

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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

this is not a joke.

anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

TonusOH

Morris can still identify himself as the Faithful and Debauched Slave, I suppose.

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Every JW Elder In State Of Pennsylvania Subpoenaed

by JW GoneBad in

breaking news!

every jehovah’s witness elder in the 67 counties of pennsylvania are being given notice by state attorney's office to turn over any & all documents relating to child sex abuse cases!

watch attached video beginning at time-stamp 101:00...pay particular attention to what is said after 103:00.this is wild!.

TonusOH

They could always violate the law in the interests of doing what is right, and trust in Jehovah to see them through it. It wouldn't be the first time they advocated taking a stand in the face of dire consequences. It might be a bit too close to home, perhaps.

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Every JW Elder In State Of Pennsylvania Subpoenaed

by JW GoneBad in

breaking news!

every jehovah’s witness elder in the 67 counties of pennsylvania are being given notice by state attorney's office to turn over any & all documents relating to child sex abuse cases!

watch attached video beginning at time-stamp 101:00...pay particular attention to what is said after 103:00.this is wild!.

TonusOH

Fisherman: All it takes is a Google search to confirm what I said.

Yes, you are right about the federal law and priest/lawyer/client relationships, and I am wrong.

I stand by my point about the WTS's approach, since we must keep in mind that many of the unreported crimes were not confessions by suspects, but accusations by victims. Otherwise, there would be no point to all of the subpoenas.