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  JWLITE

  by Teddnzo in

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  2. friends

  even elders can be part of the new jw lite brigade these days.

  they don’t need to go on door to door anymore and there is no requirement for anything really.. taking meeting parts is all dead easy you could turn up on the day with zero preparation because it’s all in the meeting workbook.. quarterly elders meetings are just old men having a good old natter just like old men do down the pub.. congregations could be likened to pubs or bars these days just without the drinks, those come at other times.. no need for territory maps, these almost went away with covid letter writing now they are extremely slow getting finished as those who still go door to door only do ten mins.. you could even voice your questions these days about things the gb say and then just say “we can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know”.

  i predict they will say this about 1914 soon..

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  Keep in mind that if it is all just a wager, the odds don't look very good. Those who choose to deny religion, along with those who sit on the fence, and also those who choose the wrong god(s), have to hope that the actual god is one who is forgiving of such choices (in which case, why even put humanity through all of this?). If it is one of the many gods who are not forgiving --say, the kind who threaten eternal suffering for anyone who did not meet 100% of the requirements-- then we're all doomed to an eternity of suffering at the hands of a very cruel being.

  With so many religions and religious denominations --many which demand exclusive and rigid devotion-- the odds are that most people will fall short. On the other hand, the idea of a god who wants everyone to be saved, but allows such splintering of support over time, doesn't make sense. Such a god really can't exist.
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  Why is the Faithful Slave Now Admitting Ignorance?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  2. beliefs

  dbm writes on the question: will sodomites get a resurrection?.

  i guess it depends the date that you asked this question.

  here is a screenshot from a video which gives an overview of the changes (new light) on this question:.

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  It's kind of weird that this would be an issue of such import to them. Was it really that important to try and figure out if the people killed at S&G were going to be resurrected or not?
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  Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool - November 2023

  by DerekMoors in

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  2. humour

  let's get the fun started and put in our votes for how far down the pumpkin patch lord of the fries will fall in november.. for those keeping score, last month he started at 457 patrons, did some begging and managed to bump those numbers up to 478, but as of this writing he's down to 439.. so, how well do you think the grift will continue this month?

  let us know where you think he'll be on november 2. lucky number 420?

  will he drop back down below 400?

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  Good job, Ron.W.!
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Only 20. So the question is, will it accelerate now that he doesn't seem to have the drive to produce quality content anymore, or will it slow as the last of the die-hards make every effort to keep the ship from sinking? Maybe we need another pool, to see how many of his videos are about "the future of the channel" and how many are actual content that his supporters paid to see.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  "Self-depreciating" is a good description of his monetization efforts over the past two years.
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  Current light on will die at Armageddon?

  by Teddnzo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my wife zoe and i often talk about her grandmother who has never been a jw but is an excellent christian by other opinions.

  she has led such a good life always kind and tried to follow jesus example.

  before the agm new light my wife often thought according to current light is that as long as she dies before armageddon she will be resurrected.

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  Teddnzo: So JWLITE is a win win for everyone.

  Maybe. My point is that the most important viewpoint would be that of god. Say the Abrahamic god exists, a god who is interested in each of us and has standards of worship and behavior that will determine our eternal future. Do you think he would be okay with someone straddling the fence in regards to serving him, so as to try and cheese their way into heaven on a possible technicality?
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  Current light on will die at Armageddon?

  by Teddnzo in

  1. watchtower
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  my wife zoe and i often talk about her grandmother who has never been a jw but is an excellent christian by other opinions.

  she has led such a good life always kind and tried to follow jesus example.

  before the agm new light my wife often thought according to current light is that as long as she dies before armageddon she will be resurrected.

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  enoughisenough: it would be better to never be baptized and to die considering the way we were taught.

  There is a lot of reasoning like this, similar to Pascal's Wager, where the idea is that you may as well fake it in the hopes that you might get lucky. But this kind of thinking presumes that god will be okay with someone trying to cheat him. Or that the same god who wanted 'mercy, not sacrifices' will be forced to grant salvation on a technicality.

  I think that god would reward sincerity above all. You can't sneak past him. That might only anger him.
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  No Blood Policy and some repercussions

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
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  thank you atlantis for the emails that you send out to so many of us.

  in one email that i received dated 21st october was a jw document title "information for patients requiring chemotherapy or surgery".

  the organization never ceases to shock and i was disgusted with the information included in this document because it leads to their followers not getting the best medical care, not just because of their no blood policy but because of the other repercussions which they highlight in this information guide.. they begin by stating they are not giving medical advice, just information to help individuals make their own decisions.. point 7 states.

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  Sorry NotFormer, I did not mean to imply that you were saying that without sarcasm.
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  What's next?

  by lastmanstanding in

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  2. bible

  what's next for the world?

  a year ago i edited a map of the world to include some big arrows to tell the story of what is to come.

  and i shared that map with various friends.

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  Predicting war and strife isn't terribly bold, since that is pretty much the entirety of human history once we developed agriculture and established towns and cities and, evenutally, nations.

  As I said in that other topic, my prediction is that, when these predictions do not lead to divine intervention and the establishment of god's kingdom, people will learn their lesson and stop making predictions will wait for the next 'time of distress' and make the same predictions all over again. Because that is also part of human history.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Toblerone5: Who could be able to post that link on all is Youtube video though ?

  Oh, I didn't understand what you were asking before. It looks like, when you delete your Twitter account, the username becomes available for anyone else to take. Someone signed up with a new account and used the name. Since he gave up the account willingly --and since the new owner did not break any rules to take it-- I doubt he can get it back. The fact that he has other media sites that link to his now 'hijacked' Twitter means that he now has another Self-Own Award he can hang next to his YouTube milestone plaques.

  There is a new tweet that is quite funny.